Loendal Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 I am setting up this poll to get an idea of what people think about the topic. Everyone knows that the Hunter is a powerful powerful vehicle. I'm of the opinion that it's TOO Powerful for a Multiplayer setting Firstly, aiming is not required. If you remember in the Single Player mode, you just have to be near a car and the guns train in on them, blowing them to bits in seconds. Secondly, it's powerful enough to destroy a vehicle in a matter of seconds or tear someone to shreds in less time then that. This is not good. For this same reason, the huge gatling gun from over at the Hatian's drug warehouse should also not be brought into the game. Thirdly, rockets doen't even have to HIT the cars, just hit near enough and the car blows. This is also not good. Putting the Hunter's weaponry into the game will only make for a mad dash to the helicopter every single time someone gets killed or whatever. Why bother grabbing the big machine gun when you can go get dual rocket launchers, a training machine gun and the ability to fly over everything? Link to comment
raiden Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 You have some good points. Synchronizing the machine guns would be okay, but not the missiles. It'd be nice if the sirens and horns were synched, but that's just a lot of detail work for no reason. Link to comment
Loendal Posted August 15, 2003 Author Share Posted August 15, 2003 They intend to synch up Sirens and Horns in an upcoming version if I understand correctly Link to comment
raiden Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 I don't know why they would, seems pretty pointless, even though it would add to the effect of cops and robbers Link to comment
trx Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 We will try to synchronize the Hunters weaponry, ofcourse. And when we do so, we should also find a fitting environment for it. I agree that the Hunter is too powerful for normal Deathmatch, but it could very well fit in other missions, where weapons are more balanced. We will have to think about this in the future. Link to comment
green1152 Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 They should sync everything. Besides, the hunter is rarely used... Link to comment
xerox Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 the hunter is not all powerful - a decent heavy gun an take it down easily, as could a rocket launcher etc. Link to comment
green1152 Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 besides, the hunter is fun when you get to blow people up... It's that simple. Link to comment
tarrant_ino Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 when you consider there will be up to 32 players online at any one time ... not only one person will be shooting the hunter ... many people will be shooting it at the same time ....yes whoever is flying the thing has an advantage as far as power goes .. but they also have the dissadvantage that any player seeing the hunter .. ( when the weapons are synced ) will be shooting shit out of it ... and after all its not like they can get out of it too quickly Link to comment
petebog Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 but they also have the dissadvantage that any player seeing the hunter .. ( when the weapons are synced ) will be shooting shit out of it ... and after all its not like they can get out of it too quickly You do know that you can jump out of helis when they're flying? Link to comment
tarrant_ino Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 i know but if you have say 3 peeps shooting the heli .. doesnt take much to take it out... plus when you consider gang playing you could have scouts looking out for the hunter on top of a nice big building ... shooting shit out of it ! Link to comment
Gun.blade Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 it isnt too powerfull.... if it flies.... everyone can see it and they all shoot at it.... so it will be destroyed very fast.. and there are loads of people that can't fly a hunter good enough to kill people... Link to comment
anzas Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 we just need some rockets to take it out as well Link to comment
raiden Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Kinda hard with no secondary fire button. Maybe they can work that into the game. Wait a second, I just thought of something. I was playing, took out the M60, and was able to aim in first person with Mouse2, is that supposed to work? Link to comment
ashdexx Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 sync them! before i knew the hunter guns werent synced i had a blast (no pun) wasting the ppl on motorcycles. and you can unfair my ass, i've been shot more than enough times in it, that damn m60 is badass Link to comment
fleccy Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 ive blown up ppl's cars in the hunter they just cant see me fire Link to comment
DJ-Mills Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 i thik this sync would be a gr8 addition to MTA:VC. However i think the ADMIN for the server should be able to allow certain aspects of mta such as weather or not the hunters weapons should be activated. Then you could choose if you wanted to enter a game with hunter weapons available or not. Then everyone would have a fair choice. Link to comment
fleccy Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 yeah but doing that would leave a massive super bug lets say i got in hunter and server had hunter weapons off and i go shoot down a helicopter which hasnt really been shot down then i go to where the chopper you shot downs spawn point and i get in it it will jack the guys helicopter in mid air and yes this is whats happening in mta 0.1 now Link to comment
SeBsZ Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 he's right, it is a nice function but there will be some problems associated with it... Link to comment
KoRvEn Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 why not have a turn off/on button for the hunter i mean if its not have weapons to the hunter it will still be able to shot the heli down and jack him in the middle of air but if we have it on we kan shot down the heli and he can se that so there will be no suprice hijacking Link to comment
death_entry Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Its not a problem at all if rocket launchers can be easily found and they can take down a hunter! If your playing deathmatch you are sort of a sitting (or flying) duck, your an easy target to somebody with a rocket launcher, also if you have at least two hunters then there isnt just one person monopolising it. So what happens when ppl want to use tanks? Do you want to stop the tanks being able to destroy cars when they crash into them? Link to comment
Guest Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 i did what i always do tick shit before thinking about it, i ticked no the the guns on the heli. but upon thinking about it. it would be better if it did have weapons, but again thinking about it. it would need to be fair, for example, if there was 2 teams in a match and each team got a hunter it would be fine. but there would need to be a lock on the door so the other team couldnt access the others hunter. or some sort of detarent. the 2 hunters could be equal distance from the teams spawns so the better drivers gt to them first. Link to comment
Guest Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 I think you should sync hunter and other vehicles "with guns" but add an option to server config file to disable or enable this weapons. Link to comment
me Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 the tanks are way too powerful... you have to shoot about 4000 (really. 4000) rockets to destroy it. Link to comment
Madd Dog Posted September 6, 2003 Share Posted September 6, 2003 agreed, tanks are awsomely powerful, the only way i can see them being added is in a CTF map where each team gets one tank, with the blowing up of other cars disabled, along with massivly reducing its turret power and rocket resistant armor. more like a portection vechical from snipers and heavy machine guns, everyone hides behind it while is moves through enemy teritory where heapsa resistance is expected. problem CTF aint in this version and the tweeking to make it fair will be huge to i dont see this for a while yet. Link to comment
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