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While we're still on that subject - I wish somebody would give the gang leader rank to DeathB already... everyone else is tagged with theirs but him, and ULK is one of the biggest gangs around.

The game lags for me too if I'm playing VC at the time - I've talked with other people and they've had this problem, too. Your only solution is to either not run MTAMA while you're playing VC, or not play VC while you're running MTAMA... unless someone can provide a fix.

I was wondering when someone would take action against all of the spam and how... and I guess this is it. KFG, I really don't quite understand why you deleted everyone else's thread, but I do see where you're coming from... maybe it was just out of rage. I'm not too sad about losing ULK's thread because half of it was spam anyway - fresh new start, just like everyone said. All of our serious discussion goes down either on IRC or our official forums anyway, and there's no way we can lose that. Some advice to any other large gangs: set up a forum of your own too, and a channel on MTA's IRC server (or another network if you prefer). Gang leaders don't have enough power here to keep their threads clean and discuss every issue on hand, so you need some other way to communicate... this has long been one of ULK's top priorities since it was founded. Sorry to anyone that lost their thread today if they found it truly important.

DeeJee: Nah, I'm actually getting some pretty good laughs out of this. It's not about the final word... How? They're free anyway, and how can you say a page like that is wasteful? I know for a fact that no one but one or two people cracked it... the client was passed around. All that you do is mod the files and use trainers, and like I said, any moron can do that.1. I have no idea what you're saying. 2. They aren't going to use third party programs for protection schemes, for one reason or another... I forgot why. But they will always implement their own, and it will eventually be cracked, so they have chosen to improve upon it with each release. Sure, I believe you both when you say you have friends in MNK, because they're just as sad as you are and I guess you can relate to them. But fry, man, why are you even talking about real life here? I know that you're a serious loser in that area, so don't even try to convince me you have friends there.

Yeah, but being an asshole is another one of your priorities. Like I said, modding Vice City isn't such a hard concept to grasp anyway - all that you need is a cracked client to do so. It's funny how you think you've accomplished something that any moron could do. Your feelings about it doesn't change the fact that MNK does go to public servers and cheat. It hasn't gotten any of us mad. Not only was your forum raid pathetic, but it hasn't changed any of our minds about MNK and other cheating clans. You must have a hard time making friends, then.

If they were aware of it, then they would be concerned - that's what I meant, and in fact, they are. I told you to talk to any of the devs themselves if you didn't trust my word, so do that.I am an admin of some servers, and I have tried to deal with MNK before. They flood a server, you ban them, they keep coming back - I know the routine. It's useless. From my standpoint, he didn't mean that. Either way, like I said, I'm not going to leave from anywhere just because some cheating loser tells me so. "True modder?" Heh, you're all giving yourselves a bit too much credit here. It's not that hard to mod Vice City anyway. First of all you seem to have bigger ambitions for us than we do, take over MTA lol.Secondly, We ARE the speedboat, We ARE the jet car, we CANNOT be killed. Then what is your ambition? To earn the reputation of a complete asshole wherever you go? I don't see how you take pride in that. I don't see how you take so much pleasure in "not getting killed," either. It makes your lack of skill show badly. MNK does indeed go to public deathmatch servers and cheat occasionally. You're way off by saying they go to cheating servers (which are very rare these days) or stunt servers only. I thought your goal was to piss everyone off anyway, right?

The MTA team is working on that with each release. For it to be cracked again? They wouldn't waste their time. I don't know exactly what you're implying here; are you questioning the fact that the MTA team isn't aware of the cheating problems? You're honestly misinformed if you think so. Ask any of the devs themselves if you don't trust my word. Haha. I'm not going to leave just because some cheating loser is going to tell me so. You're obviously not mixing well with the people here - the majority of us don't like cheaters, and we're all telling YOU to get out.

If you haven't noticed already, that mod was made before MTA: VC 0.1 even released. Yes, I have made other mods (I even have a site dedicated for it), but they are strictly for single player and I don't encourage using them in MTA at all. Do you see any documentation included that even mentions MTA? No. I didn't ask anyone to justify anything, actually. Read it over again: "...you have no justification in what you're saying." You flamed DeathB, KungFuGrip, and even the developers as a joke? It certainly didn't seem like it. I think you're feeling regret now - that's good, but it still doesn't change the fact that you needlessly flamed them and started an argument for no good reason.As for anti-cheaters and cheaters, it's not a matter of opinion; it's simply wrong and unfair, and we have proven that. You can't tell me you're not going to mind it when your opponent is invincible and you are not, or someone can jetpack around and you can't. We do everything in our power to stop cheaters, but there's always nerds around like MNKs that know how to evade bans. The MTA team thinks this isn't a problem? That's hardly the case. They are very much aware of the cheating issues with their mod. Just for a fact, we can't deal with any of you at the moment because you're so damn persistant and annoying. I think you all should be the ones to get off your computers, not us.

Or maybe you should get a life, like I told everyone else. People can play wherever they want to... admins can't always save the day, either. Cheating is lame and you have no justification in what you're saying.

I meant to say /timer 0 0 /msg Rob86_Server nerd, but it somehow activated a timer anyway and I flooded Rob about 50 times with "nerd" until I disconnected.

Do you honestly think your pathetic smilies are going to hurt me? Haha. Really... what do you think you're going to accomplish by posting on these forums as an admitted cheater? Nothing; you're only embarrassing yourself even further. If you feel you need to cheat, and be an asshole while doing it at that, then get out. Your presence is obviously unwanted.

Heh, sure you were Ice... the only gangs you fit in are cheating ones anyway, so stick to them.

That's not true. Both KFC and ULK have always only let in the best of MTA and those they can trust. There have been a few bad members before, but they were discarded if they ever caused trouble, last I heard. Whine about what? Unfair gameplay like cheating? Who doesn't... We know enough about MTA to separate normal players from cheaters. You call fair, trustworthy, and respected members in this community a disease? The only people that are "a disease spreading that cannot be stopped" are lamers like MNK and any other cheating clans out there. Your cause is pathetic.

My connection doesn't mean anything - look at the score.

Heh, I'm not the one online in MTA, 24/7, cheating, and trying to piss people off. Like I said, go get a life anyhow. I know that you don't have one.

Well for Starters let me say that it has been a pleasure for me and my friends in the MNK klan pestering you n00bs and killing you with our mods that Own. We take care in making you KFC chickens and ULK cocks whine and complain about us. Yes you may be able to kill some of our clan members, but when it comes to the clan elders, we cannot be stopped by any means, we laugh at your Stubby wars, your sad attempts at Heli kills, and your pathetic existance on official and unofficial servers. If we have hurt your feelings, or overly inflated Egos, we're not one bit sorry and we take delight in imposing our malice. We will use whatever mods we choose that are at our disposal... for as long as there have been multiplayer games there have been cheats. It is not something that will just change the moment the new version of MTA will be out. Oh and most of you may know me personally, I cannot be banned, i cannot be stopped, And KFC, I'm on my way to one of your servers very soon with many of my clan members. Oh and stop whining ya n00bz I guess some people have nothing better to do. Sobeit: You're even flaming the developers? If you hate MTA so much, and take pride in the stupid things that you're doing, then you should get a life. MNK is by far the most persistant cheating clan out there. Not only do they cheat in public servers just to annoy people, but whenever they're banned, they find a way around it within a few seconds and continue playing on their chosen server. What is their goal? To piss people off online, and it's actually a pretty sad thing to know - they must be a bunch of losers in real life.

Ah sorry... it's updated now. We're looking for a war with a (non-cheating) clan. We haven't had one in a while, and some of our members are getting bored. Anyone up for it?

Alright, I accept it - I'm sure you've never heard anything about your warping issues. Just drop it. I've seen you warp, and I know in the back of my mind that other people have too. Think what you want...

Hm, yeah, it was n4sr that said you 'definately warped,' and he said whenever he asked you about it, you got all defensive, exactly like you're doing now. Yeah, the FPS does drop a bit in a larger server. But that's beside the point - smaller servers will probably have more laggers, whereas larger ones will not.

Yeah, no one with dial-up can play in a bigger server (usually with 16 people or more), because it simply gets far too laggy to play with - the reptitive timeouts, chat text dropping, and when you're in-game, you can't hit anyone and no one can hit you. It's really annoying... that's why all of the more advanced users (that are aware of the lag issues) with slower connections will be seen in servers like the ten player official - by far my favorite, by the way. Ironic how you complain about lag though, Utopia, when I've asked around and other people have definately seen you warp, too. I don't know why you see everyone else warp, but nonetheless, no one else actually does but you. If your connection can handle larger servers, then why not just go to those instead of the smaller ones? It's probably more fun anyway...

Oh yeah, you were the one playing as 'HuNTeR' while in the 10 player server, right? You were warping badly though, and everyone there saw it, so that's why they were flaming you. Courtesy? Hahah. What about this: Even if you actually did talk, then you'd probably only be saying things like that. You can't tell me you're going to act in such a manner and not get disrepected. Not saying anything at all isn't going to help, either.

Yeah... it's pretty easy, I have quite a few clans added: echo -s $1- $mta.name($1,$2) if (Clan Tag isin $mta.name($1,$2)) { mta.say $1 That clan is not allowed here. mta.kick $1 $2 } That goes under mta.join. The name will be printed in the status window and then checked to see if it matches. It'd probably be more accurate if you'd add the clan tag's style too (in ULK's case, {ULK}). You can replace mta.kick with mta.ban if you'd like.

I'm not really sure who all of the people behind that whole conspiracy were trying to accomplish anyway, so let's drop it. We (ULK) can keep our opinions and FBI can keep theirs, but let's try not to bring something like this up again without solid proof - a 4 second fraps video didn't necessarily convince many people that Mac-10 may have cheated, and I'll admit that. Sorry.

I'm sure you did... you wouldn't happen to have a fraps video of that or some other sort of conclusive evidence, would you? If we truly saw him cheat, then he'd be kicked on sight. But if you called a truce then I suppose it's okay...But xerox is right, it was just some random bug and you can't really link it to cheating. As it turns out, this Lara C. seems to be a ULK hater anyway, as he registered on our forums and flamed us (we gave him the forum idiot title though).