[xNet]DrDre Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 I dont like this idea, its a waste of download. Why would someone who only has vice city or is only going to play vice city need to download the application for gta3? Its just a waste of bandwidth for you and download time for us. Keep them seperate, dl what you need, this idea is almost like kazaa with the spyware. stuff you dont need... In the server would be ok, but not the client.. That could make it easier for running the servers, using diff config files.. but remember mta.3 i believe it was like 5mb... i dont wanna dl 5mb of gta3:mta and .5mb for vc when im only using vc... it makes sense Link to comment
[jX] Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 dont like it, dont download it. Link to comment
fj5000 Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 The old 0.3b will not come back. That the new MTA will be built on VC structure is highly probable. That means 400 kb for VC + another 400 kb for GTA 3. 800 kb on 56 kbit modem at 5 kb/sec speed will take 2,6 minutes. Have you got that much time? Link to comment
SteadVéx Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 what? thats crazy, just look at mta vc its improved a hell of a lot over gta3 0.3b or whatever, it'll be a similar size to vc, even less as the net code will be the same, so really it would only be like a list of memory addres that would be different, can't see it being more than a 100k or so bigger? a 1mb at the most to ahve the both in one, it would actually save time, because people who have both can save like 20k downloading them together (all incredibly rough estimates ) Link to comment
me Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 of course, MTA 0.1 won't simply be GTA3:MTA and MTA:VC shoved together. So, if each of them is 400kb, it'll probably end up somewhere around 600kb, NOT 800. Link to comment
[DS]Devil Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 mta .1 = bad idea i agree Link to comment
MasterEvilAce Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 i like the idea of a 2-in-1program it helps the programmers TREMENDOUSLY and helps out people with both games What idon't like is the jump back to version .1 That's retarded.. people are going to see MTA .2 and MTA.1, and they'll download .2 The whole thing with MTA .1 doesn't make sense. Why are you reverting to a lower number, when that version includes MORE features? Atleast do something like MTA .2.5 or MTA .25 or something like that. it really doesn't make any sense Link to comment
ryanraab Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 I like the 2 in 1 idea and also like the number setup. Makes sense for it to be version 0.1. Link to comment
MTA Team Blokker_1999 Posted September 26, 2003 MTA Team Share Posted September 26, 2003 DrDre, before making such staterments, make sure you got all the facts. 0.3b is old, verry old. It was written in Visual Basic. We don't just combine 0.3b and VC 0.2. We start from nothing and build a new client which supports GTA3 and VC. The netcode for both will be the same. The only difference between the two is the memory adresses and some small functions. We want to combine the two so ppl who want to play both don't need to download the damn thing twice. And in this world of broadband what is a few kb? Comparing us with KaZaA and spyware is just stupid. Where the hell did you get that STUPIF DUCKING IDEA? Link to comment
ijsf Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Please mind that 400K is for the TOTAL MTA:VC application atm within an installer. That doesn't mean that the download size doubles if we're going to put in GTA3 support as well. That would mean that there would be 2 of everything. It could be something like 500K or 600K Link to comment
MAD_BOY Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 that's not much space, so it isn't a bad idea after all Link to comment
Evil Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 jeez after all this mod is not even reaching close to 10megs even on 56k you could handle such a download. i like this idea i dont play gta3 much but when i do would be nice to have it all in one client Link to comment
fleccy Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 i like the idea it's nice and neet Link to comment
Gene Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 I dont like this idea, its a waste of download. Why would someone who only has vice city or is only going to play vice city need to download the application for gta3? They wouldn't be downloading two applications, It's only one. Its just a waste of bandwidth for you and download time for us. I've seen skin and car mods for this game that are bigger than MTA. The bandiwdth used while playing the game is much more of a significant issue than a single download. In the server would be ok, but not the client.. Double standard? I don't know; perhaps he's just not a deep thinker. I think it's a great idea to combine the two. The two game engines are similar. This allows updates to take effect for both games and people won't complain that MTA:VC runs better than MTA for GTA3. Also, the people who made the decision to combine the projects are the people who are developing them. Their judgement on the issue is better than the general population's. Link to comment
True Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 To the original poster: Have you seen the size of the download? And do you realize that the core is somewhat identical in both cases? I project the core will not be much bigger filesize-wise than currently is now, unless some major (weird) features are implemented. So, it really won't be a waste of download time - unless 4 seconds is too much for you or something. But this has been said many times, so I will stop there Any new features added to the core would have the effect of being added to both games, not only dereasing the amount of time before release, but also decreasing the amount of learning time; ie. you learn something in GTA:VC, you can play it in GTA3. Something that can be improved is the netcode, but I am sure you are already working on it - you have already decreased the amount of traffic required, which can probably even be decreased more, now what is left is quality of gameplay... but again, as I said, you're probably already on that. This is an excellent idea... I dont know about the numbering scheme, but if it works for you guys, go for it. Keep it up... I'll play it Link to comment
[xNet]DrDre Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 Anti-[xNet] = childish name Link to comment
Guest Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I think the "all-in-one" version will be great. I think developing will go faster because there's only one program. And does some more bytes make a difference? If the mod was 1GB+ i would still download it! Link to comment
Oyst Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 lol@Anti x-net Seriously though i dont think its in anyway a bad idea and im seriously looking forward to see it coming out. wewt Link to comment
MasterEvilAce Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I think the "all-in-one" version will be great. I think developing will go faster because there's only one program. And does some more bytes make a difference? If the mod was 1GB+ i would still download it! 1GB? you don't realize how long 1GB takes to transfer.. even on cable Link to comment
Flesh eater Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 hum 4 hours approx with cable 512kb/s if it runs at max Link to comment
[xNet]DrDre Posted October 2, 2003 Author Share Posted October 2, 2003 eh whyd u bring this topic back up... i know this now... someone lock it Link to comment
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