Newcomers

[soot]

Couldnt everyone be just that little bit nicer to newcomers. If someone takes the time to register and ask surely you can see they dont mean to do what they do. Common problem, common solution. Sticky.

Please forgive me if im out of line.

[orappa]

I agree. Could you let me know which topic this is in reference to?

[Gamefreek]

Im guessing its to all the threads where someones first post is asking for help or suggesting something thats been suggested many times before and regulars sorta flame them for it

[soot]

Thats the one, 'When will it be released' and 'Why cant I walk'.

[Vicer/Spitfire]

Here's a suggestion for whoever made the forum logos (old and new). Add at the bottom of the image "Deathmatch isn't ready, don't ask" in bright red text.

EDIT- This is what I mean:

Of course, this is only a suggestion. Doesn't have to be done. However, it should stop the amount of newbies coming in and asking when DM is released, etc. There are probably better places to put the message in though.

[Lággy]

Nice idea spit. It's hard not to look at it with that bright red text.

[lil Toady]

Nice idea spit. It's hard not to look at it with that bright red text.

Yeah, but in some way it spoils the banner imo..

[zerb]

The edited signature certainly does give out that specific reponse to the public, but i have to agree about the signature would slightly be ruined, perhaps just another small banner somewhere throughout the forums could be another suggestion. The homepage could also include something else added to those who dont visit the forum regulary.

[Blokker_1999]

problem is : noobs disregard everything. they don't read anything, they just come here to ask their question and that's it.

[Vicer/Spitfire]

It doesn't hurt to put it somewhere though, you never know what could happen.

lil Toady: As I said, it was a suggestion. There are other places where it could be placed.

[Jigga]

Maybe a pop-up, which appears at your first 5 forum visits?

[lil Toady]

Maybe a pop-up, which appears at your first 5 forum visits?

Great idea, maybe not a pop-up as it can be blocked by browser, but at least anything can be shown extra with your first forum visits.

Or maybe put some text in the registration verfy email

[CoZ]

problem is : noobs disregard everything. they don't read anything, they just come here to ask their question and that's it.

at the moment the only real give-away that dm isnt out is this text on dll page

Multi Theft Auto is a modification for Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for PC that allows you to play it online against players around the world. This is the first release of MTA:SA which contains a race modification and a race map editor.

and off course in several posts in forum

aka its not _just_ the problem of not reading

its also a problem of not informing

and we already talked this over a couple of times and its about time you really did make a change somewhere blokker_1999 ... like you said you would

I do agree that we should change the description a bit on the downloadpage to indicate that the current release is race only.

in why does http://www.mtasa/mtavc.com go to news first ?

close to two months ago !

[Blokker_1999]

you say it yourself, it is mentioned on the download page, what more can we do? Is it our fault that people don't read? Should we really ruin our site with bigh high contrast letters stating that what people should read anyway?

People expect something, see the word download and click on it. Only to be dissapointed, not our fault that they don't read the text that is posted on the download page, not our fault that they don't read news posts correctly, ... .

People today are lazy. Why is it that most people don't even search for a solution or an answer anymore? Do you really think they take the time to read something? No they want answers to their questions immidiatly. They want everything at once without having to do anything themselves.

If anyone is dissapointed it is their own fault, not ours. We have informed people.

[Lággy]

There could be a way to fix this. I kinda have a idea.

Maybe for the first 2 visits (as lil Toady said) make a special rule page which the user has to accept. On the bottom of the page, it saids, "click next to continue". This is a fake button and only logs off the user with a page saying "READ THE RULES NEXT TIME!". The real button you have to press is hidden on the top of the page. The only way to pass this puzzle is if the user reads the rules because in the rules somewhere, it tells where the right button is. People who have read the rules will be allowed in.

You get my idea?

[CoZ]

people.

but you also know there is a huge twilight zone between huge red letters on the main page and ONE (somewhat cryptic) message on the download page

[gamingkrazy]

people.

but you also know there is a huge twilight zone between huge red letters on the main page and ONE (somewhat cryptic) message on the download page

dont listen to coz, he's a huge fan of sheep...

[CoZ]

dont listen to coz, he's a huge fan of sheep...

yes .. you know im your biggest fan ..

[gamingkrazy]

dont listen to coz, he's a huge fan of sheep...

yes .. you know im your biggest fan ..

thats not what you said last night

[CoZ]

dont listen to coz, he's a huge fan of sheep...

yes .. you know im your biggest fan ..

thats not what you said last night

but when you sneaked up un me in the dark alley and tried to assault me i thought you were someone else

... now on topic again ?

[erorr404]

I don't think this is a big enough issue to ruin the site with annoying red letters.

[Ransom]

I actually think there should be some sort of easily readable info on what has been released at the top of the page. It wont solve the problem but it will help alot. Thats why I linked to the old mtavc page, where there was a downloads table right on top of the main page. That was the best.

[NazcaC2]

...or just add a new emoticon (smiley) similar to Vicer's test signatures.

The newb posts, we post the emoticon. Problem solved.

[Gamefreek]

That doesnt solve the problem because the point is to reduce the number of posts like that. You will never be able to stop newcomers who dont read other parts of the site from posting a topic asking for a release date or a link for DM

[NazcaC2]

I don't think anything would solve this problem in an attempt to reduce the number of posts; because, like someone already said - no newbs will read the posts (above or in general) to figure that out.