limpeh-behsi Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 If you are playing MTA:SA R1.0, you probably know how am I. Ok, now I wanted to ask, is it 'legal' to fly 'backwards' with AT400? I found a player do that and he tells me do it like this: 1. Take a AT400 and when the 'speed' is getting low, press 'down' to fly 'backwards' I tried it but cannot. Is this cheating? Imagine you just like looking at the TV with a plane and you 'rewind' the tape and see the plane flying behind and not in front -.- Thanks Link to comment
Jani Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Haha yeah, that's a cheat. Aeroplanes generally can't produce enough reverse thrust to actually fly backwards, and it would be the same in the game. Link to comment
limpeh-behsi Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 But before that, only himself doing it, and then after he told me, some of the people also can do it. Is it weird? So many cheaters 'playing' with it? Thanks Link to comment
Mr.hankeyeye Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 reminds me of this http://www.forum.mtavc.com/viewtopic.php?t=16831 Link to comment
Sodisna Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Flying backwards isn't a cheat. Besides, you can't use a speedhack on a airplane. I've tried in Single Player. They just go a bit faster, like 2MPH faster. Link to comment
Mr.hankeyeye Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 actually you can use the airbreak wich allows you to move in every direction you want Link to comment
MrJax Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Flying backwards isn't a cheat. Besides, you can't use a speedhack on a airplane. I've tried in Single Player. They just go a bit faster, like 2MPH faster. You can "speedhack" with any vehicle and as fast as you like. Link to comment
CoZ Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 (edited) Flying backwards isn't a cheat. Besides, you can't use a speedhack on a airplane. I've tried in Single Player. They just go a bit faster, like 2MPH faster. You can "speedhack" with any vehicle and as fast as you like. i think/hope you mean to confirm the answer in the practical the hack - until the anti-cheat gets updated - works way. Not in the - everyone will be ok with you going as fast as you like- way oh and ..yes its possible to fly backwards like said Edited October 4, 2006 by Guest Link to comment
Ravenheart Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Its more than possible, almost everyone can do it now best get a Andromada, go up high and then tilt the nose up until the plane is vertical, then press the backwards button(usually S unless you've changed it) and use the UP and DOWN arrow keys to fly it backwards. PS. You might crash a few times untill you get the hang of it Link to comment
MrJax Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 i think/hope you mean to confirm the answer in the practical the hack - until the anti-cheat gets updated - works way. Not in the - everyone will be ok with you going as fast as you like- way I wasn't refering to MTA, but I imagine it will still be possible, you can spend your whole life updating an anti-cheat, but it'll never cover everything. All we can do is make it harder for cheaters Link to comment
Leviathan Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 lol it's worth a try, It's like when leaning got introduced, people allso thought it was cheating. alltough it still is lame Link to comment
CoZ Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 i think/hope you mean to confirm the answer in the practical the hack - until the anti-cheat gets updated - works way. Not in the - everyone will be ok with you going as fast as you like- way I wasn't refering to MTA, but I imagine it will still be possible, you can spend your whole life updating an anti-cheat, but it'll never cover everything. All we can do is make it harder for cheaters true .. i never said it should cover everything either but if it keeps 50% (probably 99) of the current cheaters by a few simple things (vehicles just cant go 400+mph (unless some freak bug with a tank , but than its not) moving perfect straight in the air .. or float upwards in a car .. of move 10 meter sideways .. basic simple things to check on for a anticheat .. (opposed to something like verifying the complete client sides program and memory adresses) im not asking for something utterly impossible like stopping every hax attempt for the next 50 years .. (sheesh , and im - with all do respect getting bit tired of the same excuse for the last six months .. which is either its impossible to stop everything or dm has prio1 ) but - with all do respect - its also not a good thing if the anticheat doesnt get updated in six months - and yes i know dm has a bigger priority but that just isnt a good enough arguement not to do anything besides dm at all .. - not just imho or the fanbase - but i know if you look in your hearts youd feel the same we ALL want dm done and preferably sooner than faster , so what about the anticheat .- and i stress again i mean this well and not to whine and i very much respect the work being done on dm and mta in general .. i just cant understand why the anticheat cant be fixed atm i know its impossible for a script to get player positions or player health info , im not sure if thats impossible for the server itself atm .. i can understand its probably impossible atm to verify if a player is actually standing on a object or if he's flying .. but surely it must be possible to do some basic checks if the bottleneck is the server side info - then just tell its next to impossible at the moment and dont tell things about not being able to prevent every hack - or - and i repeat keep up the good work and i mean this all in the best way - we are working on dm and basically wont care / fix anything about race until we launch dm *sorry about the ranting, this is just bloody annoying me for the last few months* Link to comment
erorr404 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 and yes i know dm has a bigger priority but that just isnt a good enough arguement not to do anything besides dm at all .. - not just imho or the fanbase - but i know if you look in your hearts youd feel the same Sorry but you don't speak for the fanbase. Link to comment
CoZ Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 and yes i know dm has a bigger priority but that just isnt a good enough arguement not to do anything besides dm at all .. - not just imho or the fanbase - but i know if you look in your hearts youd feel the same Sorry but you don't speak for the fanbase. since im part of the fanbase i asked out loud in a democratic motion if i could include 'fanbase' in the post.. at the time i only heard yes Link to comment
Ransom Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 *sorry about the ranting, this is just bloody annoying me for the last few months* Look around sometime, you'll see that everyone is DYING for deathmatch. For now, cheaters can be taken care of with on a good server, with good admins. Anyways, you're not flying backwards, you're just flying upside down right? Given its a different camera angle, but you've accomplished nothing different. Flying backwards is impossible. Its not a cheat but its probably considered a glitch. Though, since it wouldnt really give you in advantage in winning, I dont see why anyone would care. However, if you cant stand the possible unguilty crucificaton by noobs and a silly admin, I suggest you not (since noobs wouldnt understand and might think you're cheating). Link to comment
limpeh-behsi Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 Yes, now comfirmed it. If I'm a silly admin, I already banned him . Its really, really a big work for the admins because everyday got a few cheaters waiting for ban. I think I'm the admin that banned most players in MTA:SA R1.0 Thanks Link to comment
CoZ Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Anyways, you're not flying backwards, you're just flying upside down right? Given its a different camera angle, but you've accomplished nothing different. Flying backwards is impossible. omg .. it IS possible, have you even tried ? next you'll tell me it is impossible to land on a helipad with at400 ..right ? or ... how about landing on sherman dam ? Yes, now comfirmed it. If I'm a silly admin, I already banned him . Its really, really a big work for the admins because everyday got a few cheaters waiting for ban. I think I'm the admin that banned most players in MTA:SA R1.0 Thanks its ok to unban that player Link to comment
limpeh-behsi Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 Luckily I didn't ban the player at all, if not, the player will come back and 'revenge' Thanks Link to comment
CoZ Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 (edited) Luckily I didn't ban the player at all, if not, the player will come back and 'revenge' Thanks must have misread it then oh ps .. not everyone has dynamic ip .. in NL for example almost everyone on dsl has fixed ip - so ban = ban and wont come back Edited October 5, 2006 by Guest Link to comment
Ransom Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Anyways, you're not flying backwards, you're just flying upside down right? Given its a different camera angle, but you've accomplished nothing different. Flying backwards is impossible. omg .. it IS possible, have you even tried ? next you'll tell me it is impossible to land on a helipad with at400 ..right ? or ... how about landing on sherman dam ? Seems more like gliding backwards? Link to comment
CoZ Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Anyways, you're not flying backwards, you're just flying upside down right? Given its a different camera angle, but you've accomplished nothing different. Flying backwards is impossible. omg .. it IS possible, have you even tried ? next you'll tell me it is impossible to land on a helipad with at400 ..right ? or ... how about landing on sherman dam ? Seems more like gliding backwards? good point .. but then again gliding good =/= almost =/= flying Link to comment
limpeh-behsi Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 Here's another question, is there any way to mute/kick/ban with reason in MTA:SA R1.0? Also, whats the for? I cannot put the time/reason of mute/kick/ban, or there is the way of doing it, just i don't know? Thanks Link to comment
CoZ Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Here's another question, is there any way to mute/kick/ban with reason in MTA:SA R1.0? Also, whats the for? I cannot put the time/reason of mute/kick/ban, or there is the way of doing it, just i don't know?Thanks yes off course.. but i doubt the kicked/banned player gets a other message in screen but you could make it so a ban or kick takes 5 seconds to work .. and the player has some time to read the (ingame) reason Link to comment
limpeh-behsi Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 But for example, I type this: rcon mute player 1 It says no such player/ID, how can I put the for it? Or how can I type a reason for it? If I type this: rcon mute player dont spam It also says no such player So what is the correct way of doing it? Thanks Link to comment
paul527 Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 It may be possible to fly backwards with the airplane, becuase i remeber in Vice City you could take the Skimmer and fly it straight up, then once the plane stalls, you would press reverse and pull up it would fly backwards for alittle bit. This is not a cheat, just something that you can do in the SA physics engine. (and VC) click on this that terminator gave us http://www.forum.mtavc.com/viewtopic.php?t=16831 Link to comment
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