Discord Moderators Popular Post Megadreams Posted October 17, 2018 Discord Moderators Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) The SCM Interpreter (New Discord server: https://discord.gg/GBPZ9GvVdw) Filled with excitement I am here to announce a project that I have been working on together with @GTX named Sphene. In this post I will be talking about SCM, what Sphene has to do with it, our current development and what we plan for the future. Before I tell you what Sphene is I first need to give you some background on what SCM is as this plays an important factor in this project. I will not keep you waiting so let's get starting! What is SCM? Many of you may have heard, seen or even tampered with a well known file "main.scm" in your GTA: San Andreas installation. This file (notice the '.scm' extension) contains all the mission scripts that are available in singleplayer. Essentially the whole story-line and its side-missions are stored in here. The reality for side-missions is a bit more complicated but for the sake of this explanation we'll keep that aside as to keep it simple. SCM is the name of the language this file has been written in by Rockstar Games. Since it was made by them and the file is compiled (converted into a format that can be easily read by the game but not easily by a human) we unfortunately do not know what the original code looked like. Modders all across the world use a tool named SannyBuilder to write SCM themselves but this is very unlikely to look anywhere near the original format created by Rockstar Games. But, this does not matter much to us as it still compiles into the same format readable by the game. Essentially a compiled SCM file contains a big variety of "instructions" which tell the game what to do. For example there is an instruction that makes the game spawn a car on specific coordinates, tell a ped to drive or that tells the game to jump to a different location in the script and execute the instructions on this new position. For those wanting more in-depth information I highly recommend to read the SCM section in the "GTA SA modding book" by fastman92 which can be found here. So, what does Sphene have to do with this? Sphene is a SCM Interpreter, as in, it can run files created in the SCM language and which are compiled, including the "main.scm" file from the singleplayer game. This means that we can recreate all of singleplayer within Multi Theft Auto and further extend it with a big variety of features and improvements. Sounds great, doesn't it? It sounds easier than it is in reality however. The reality is that, as explained in the SCM section, these scripts tell the game what steps to perform, but the game still has to perform them. What does this mean? Well, it means we have to implement each instruction ourselves and make sure we stick as close to the actual game while doing so. Some instructions are fairly easy and quick to implement while others are a lot more complicated. Why? Because on many instructions the game doesn't perform just a single action. Let us take the instruction (or as we commonly refer to an instruction: opcode) to make a car drive as an example: 0704: car $car_pointer drive_to 1250 -75.5 13.25 Taken from 'SASCM.ini' included in SannyBuilder 3. The identifier for this instruction is '0704', through this Sphene knows this is the car_drive_to instruction and how many parameters (information given together with this instruction, in this case what car we want to get driving and to which location) to expect. Seems easy enough, except that there is no simple MTA function to get a car driving to a specific location. No, instead we have to write our own logic to make this possible. This can become very complex very quickly, especially as the exact functionality of many instructions isn't even known. Reverse engineering Because of this complexity and the need to make Sphene work as close to the actual game as possible we have started to reverse engineer GTA SA. Reverse engineering means that we try to make sense of the compiled code of the actual game and try to turn it into human readable code. This is easier said than done though, it's a lot more complex than reverse engineering a SCM file is. Luckily the big modding community (including MTA devs/contributors) have managed to reverse engineer big chunks of the game already, we just have to fill in the gaps that hasn't been reverse engineered yet but that contains chunks of code we require to make Sphene as accurate as possible. Contributing to Multi Theft Auto Using this knowledge and to make development easier for us (and simultaneously contributing to the MTA community as a whole) we have started contributing to the Multi Theft Auto codebase. There already is a work in progress pull request (a request for code to be added to MTA) to make it possible for players to drive client-side vehicles, damage them and other improvements. This is not only useful for us but many other servers as well. Okay, what is the purpose then? Why don't we just play singleplayer? Good question. Sphene will introduce many new options to make the game behave differently. This can be a setting to have much smarter ped AI's (making the game more difficult) to other settings to enhance the gameplay or raise its difficulty. We're not just interpreting the SCM but can actively improve it. There surely must be more to it? Oh, you bet. Did you ever want to play the storyline together with a friend (or multiple friends)? We are introducing Co-Op which allows exactly this. Naturally this version of the game will contain small changes to accommodate for the existence of multiple players and will be a lot harder. Although extra settings can raise that difficulty even more (1 HP limit anyone?). (Click to enlarge) This is a concept design of the Co-Op lobby designed by AnarchY. Anything else? Did I forget to mention that we are also planning support for GTA III and GTA Vice City (data files will have to be provided by yourself in order to load these in, to make sure you do own these games legitimately) into Sphene? I did? Well, I am happy to announce that we have already start adding basic support for these games and are hoping to make them available not long after we complete the support for GTA: San Andreas. The difficulty of implementing support for these games is of course greater as we have to import their full maps, recreate their controls, etc... That's nice, but how is the current development going? I am glad that you are asking. Sphene started out as a personal experiment but has quickly grown into a big and stable project. We started with implementing support for basic instructions and basic game logic that allowed us to fully get a tiny, custom, SCM file with a small mission working. This mission consisted of the following steps: Step in the nearly exploding car marked by the arrow. Drive the car to a checkpoint without further damaging it. Get out of the car and kill the NPC with the arrow above its head. Mission passed Very simple, but great for initially testing the interpreter. Screenshots were taken from an internal video at the time of said development. A small debug panel (improved in later stages) is seen on the right showing the instructions being executed by the interpreter. (Click to enlarge) This worked great, so now it was time to start implementing the instructions for the actual game. This proved to be challenging very quickly due to the high amount of instructions the game calls before even visually showing anything to you. But, eventually we did implement the instructions and proper text drawing support for the well known start of the game. That was a great start. Although it didn't go as well as planned as this text kept disappearing and re-appearing in a loop. Great. Now I had to figure out why this was the case. In order words, I had to start reverse engineering all the instructions Sphene was going through and manually going through the compiled SCM file instruction by instruction to make sure Sphene was interpreting everything correctly. Eventually I managed to find the issue and resolved it. A larger version of the debug panel was then being developed (for more in-depth information) and later on improved multiple times. It didn't take too long before everything was implemented to allow us to get to the famous "Grove Street -Home." sequence. Complete with audio! (Click to enlarge) We then proceeded to improve performance further and mostly do bug fixing. Currently the interpreter can handle instructions up to the sequence in the first mission where you need to get on a bike after a Ballas drive-by occurs. Although due to the amount and type of instructions implemented we did already make it possible for Sphene to run the Kickstart and Bloodring (partially) minigames as well. This truly shows that when we implement more and more instructions a lot more of the game will automatically start becoming available. (Click to enlarge) Future development We are of course still implementing a lot of instructions, improving our overall code (fixing bugs and improving performance), adding more game logic, etc. Not only that, we actually have attempted (and will continue working on it in the future) to implement cutscenes. This did not go well at first as it caused a lot of crashes, misaligned objects, etc. But we got it reasonably working, aside from the NPC's that are not animated whatsoever and float weirdly in the air. We hope to get cutscenes up and running soon. The lobby (for Co-Op) will also be implemented soon and similarly we will start develop on the Co-Op portion of Sphene. After we launch a first version (with GTA: San Andreas support) we will continue development on the GTA: Vice City and GTA III portions. We also plan (and slowly started) to develop a decompiler and compiler for SCM straight into Sphene and build our own language around it that compiles to SCM. This will allow for user created storyline's, missions, etc that also work in singleplayer if you so desire. The reason we'll be building our own language rather than using the SannyBuilder syntax is simply the fact that there is no standard SCM coding syntax out there and the SannyBuilder one is often too complex and not intuitive for most people. We want our implementation of it to be closer to what people expect from modern programming languages. (Click to enlarge) That's it for this post. Please leave any questions and/or remarks in the comments! Sincerely, Megadreams Edited September 24 by Megadreams Fixed images 7 2 Link to comment
Captain Cody Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) Are you planning on doing the VC / LC portions under the LC / VC engine(s) or in SA? If the secound one I can contribute the maps for both of them; I've got 100% ports of the main worlds (With perfect performance) and I can easily port over the interiors (As well as vehicles and stuff); heck I even have alot of their vehicles updated to SA quality to suit the environment better. Edited October 18, 2018 by CodyJ(L) 1 Link to comment
Discord Moderators Megadreams Posted October 18, 2018 Author Discord Moderators Share Posted October 18, 2018 We're indeed planning to do it within SA, the requirement for players to provide the data files themselves (excludes the assets) is a way to make said players also own these games legitimately. It would be amazing if you could indeed help us out with the maps/vehicles, we'd appreciate that a lot! Link to comment
Captain Cody Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) I'll be working on finishing up the complete versions W/Interiors included then. VC map is modified to add open world interiors so I'm not 100% certain how that would effect it; but if it does I can likely do another version. Spoiler Also, regarding the legitimately owning thing; legally this is not really required (As mods such as San Vice, liberty2SA and a few others have no problems) Edited October 18, 2018 by CodyJ(L) Link to comment
Discord Moderators Megadreams Posted October 18, 2018 Author Discord Moderators Share Posted October 18, 2018 10 hours ago, CodyJ(L) said: I'll be working on finishing up the complete versions W/Interiors included then. VC map is modified to add open world interiors so I'm not 100% certain how that would effect it; but if it does I can likely do another version. Sounds good, thanks! And that should be fine (hopefully). Link to comment
-ffs-PLASMA Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Very interessting indeed. Just being curious: Does the main.scm also include the AI logic from singleplayer? If so it would be a useful source to implement basic traffic and AI logic/movement in MTA. Link to comment
Discord Moderators Megadreams Posted April 28, 2019 Author Discord Moderators Share Posted April 28, 2019 Unfortunately it doesn't, that is still part of the actual game logic in gta_sa.exe which we have to simulate. However some AI logic is actually stored inside main.scm, the cars in the bloodring minigame at the stadium in San Fierro are entirely controlled by it. Link to comment
eAi Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 This is pretty cool. I do wonder if it'd be easier to make a system to transpile/decompile the code from SCM to MTA's LUA? Given that you'll need to modify the missions quite a lot, is SCM actually the best place to do this? I assume there will be opcodes that have to be added to SCM to facilitate co-op. It'd also be much faster to run, presumably. Link to comment
Discord Moderators Megadreams Posted May 8, 2019 Author Discord Moderators Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) We have actually considered this very recently and will test how big the performance gain would be as it would still be a significant amount of extra work to accomplish this. Although your point that this would make developing the Co-Op portion easier is quite valid as we indeed have to introduce some extra instructions ourselves for it to make any sense at all. Originally we were going to make it possible for Sphene to automatically call Lua code when it reaches certain portions in the code. Perhaps this is what we needed to finally consider all of this extra work actually worthwhile. Edited May 8, 2019 by Megadreams Link to comment
eAi Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 @Megadreams I'm interested that you say it's a lot of extra work. Obviously you've already done a lot of work on this - so changing strategy is obviously difficult - and I've not really thought a huge amount about it so maybe it's different to how I expect, but... The key difference between transpiling and interpreting is that instead of parsing the SCM and then calling functions based on it, you need to generate code that calls the same functions from the SCM. I imagine that either way you end up writing a library of code that handles each operation, and that library could be almost identical between both systems. With the transpiling approach I'd guess that control flow might be the tricky bit - though I believe Lua now supports 'goto' which could help quite a bit (I'm not sure if MTA has updated Lua yet - I know it was being talked about). Anyway interesting stuff - keep us updated! 1 Link to comment
Discord Moderators Megadreams Posted May 9, 2019 Author Discord Moderators Share Posted May 9, 2019 Unfortunately MTA still seems to use Lua 5.1 (at least that's what I see in the source) so goto isn't available yet. When transpiling we also lose the ability (especially due to a lack of goto) of being able to modify the script pointer which is an ability we'll need for the Co-Op part of Sphene in the future. But, I have talked to qaisjp about this very recently and he suggested to go the route of JIT to give ourselves the benefit of both. Transpiling when most appliceable (loops for example) while being able to remain the ability of easily moving the script pointer to somewhere else in the script to keep things synced up. Something I agree might be the best solution to this. Won't disclose quite yet how we plan to do the sync for Co-Op as that is still a work in progress but at this stage it is known that we need to maintain that ability at least. Link to comment
Discord Moderators Popular Post Megadreams Posted November 2, 2020 Author Discord Moderators Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) Hi everyone! This project is still very much alive and we have finally decided to open up our Discord to the public. Through our Discord server we are more easily able to answer to any questions you might have, listen to your suggestions and bring development updates directly to you. We will also do so through the MTA forums. You are able to join our Discord server here. (Feel free to mention me on the MTA Discord as well for any questions you might have.) Edited November 2, 2020 by Megadreams 4 Link to comment
SpoonTheMan Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 So I've been inactive for some years, I'm currently catching up with learning what kinds of breakthroughs have been happening for MTA. This project has absolutely remarkable potential! I will be keeping tabs on this. 1 Link to comment
FernandoMTA Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Hi @Megadreams the images on the main post hosted @ https://www.vultaic.com/sphene-tmp don't seem to be working Link to comment
Discord Moderators Megadreams Posted September 24 Author Discord Moderators Share Posted September 24 24 minutes ago, FernandoMTA said: Hi @Megadreams the images on the main post hosted @ https://www.vultaic.com/sphene-tmp don't seem to be working I've gone ahead and fixed them 1 Link to comment
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