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And the drama continues... *edit* No offense but because you say "problem solved" everything is ok? Err, aint VCP and Y allied anyway...

I apologise for arguing DeathB, i never flamed anyone in my statement/opinion and im basically being called stupid for it. Anyway your so busy you cant write a few lines on the future benefits of this, or is it you havent made any up yet? I mean really what IS the benefits, you can start by your favourite car? thats not a benefit, it's an unfair advantage. You should have to make your way to cars or favourite spots, not start at them. I can imagine it, someone starts at the vercetti estate and the others at the yardi drug hideout, Team one: "har har, we got the best spot lets stay here", Team two:"Mwahaha they will never get us in here, lets campout". Is it me or are you being just plain ignorant here, in my first post i mention about changing rules and checking out a former tribes 2 ladder page, and looking at there rules but converting them to MTA. Then we will have a set of base rules to go from, instead of teams picking there own rules. Also as i said maybe you should win the hideouts, not just pick them. Im hardly criticising it, im just saying, IMPROVE it at this moment in time its pathetic, its been tested? hardly you obviously havent looked into the long run when more and more gangs come along. As MTA improves it will attract more and more, therefore it hasnt been "proved" in the slightest. Dont even go there, you have proved your "poor expression of ideas" by posting this thread before even thinking it through. I said what i think, and you come back with top of your head flames. The ignorance kills me. Once again to all: Sorry for this, i know some of you guys back this idea up but that wont stop me from saying my views, i apologise.

Simple Solution:Dont look or read it

Just a bit curious here, did the MTA team know each other before hand or did you all meet on a forum or something before you started MTA?

Hmm i cant see how it gives you a boost, it exploded in mid-air rather than taking off, but ok i wont argue over it

Please state how im demonstrating my stupidity. Dont get invovled with the idea? im part of this community just like you, im also a part of the gang warefare and im stating my opinion, if its serious then there should be set places, or maybe win these location in battles, but a free for all to see who can pick a spot? as i said stupid. Dare me to spoil it? haha, im far from trying to spoil it, im trying to make it more constructive and better, rather than a damn free for all on hideouts lol. Please explain the good points here of a free for all on the hideouts, because i fail to see any at this moment. Dare...lol!

It's also very informative and exactly what i was looking for so butt out, thanks. Cheers curly.

Disconnecting from the server, using jetpack to go on the roof, then reconnecting? .....thats hard? If you did do this you deserve to be nipple crippled to death, and all others that have admitted to cheating here.

If your refering to MTA being out, it has been out for a while now. It's not perfect but its in early stages and hey, what is perfect? It's still a hell of a laugh, go to downloads and check it out, you will also need ASE(all seeing eye) which you can also find in downloads. Enjoy!

I just tested that little jump you did, i went from twice as far back as you did and you still cant clear that roof from that distance, so its obvious your using some sort of vehicle mod, and if you lie about that what others mods are you using

Yeah you can tell hes "cheating" so to speak. He also has the attitude of a cheater in the pics you see him saying "Where are all you fuggers(edited)"

Although not for MTA i would like to learn "coding" for GTA in general, i have no experince at all and i would like to know where to start or if its possible for me to learn from online tutorials at all without classes of somesort. Thanks a lot. *edit* Oh, yea if it is possible can you point me to some tutorials, thanks.

As i said before this is pretty pointless, if were going to have a somewhat serious battle league, then lets get serious. Things like "lets pick a hideout weeeee" wont get us anywhere. I'm mainly saying this because in competitions im used to it being serious. Check out http://www.theladder.org and look at the tribes 2 rules, maybe some of them can be converted to MTA battling, but no offense to anyone but picking hideouts is just stupid.

a voting system..No offense but i get accused of cheating quite a bit(not trying to boast in anyway at all), so people will be voted out for no reason what so ever.

All i want is moving legs lol Cant you just make them client side or something =D

The parking meter thing still work?

Very nice work mate. Cut some of the black off the bottom though =D

Ugh, it may not be important but still tell him. Its a skin bug, they really have a normal class skin but the skin is just bugged, when you die it should go back to normal.

I like it to take a long time, i like finding the cars randomly i nthe middle of the road, adds more realism? Bah i dunno heh.

No chance when some of them are in blasta the offcial "spam" gang

Cool site dude, its different

Copycats? lol his name actually mocks police really.....

Erm, if this gets into a serious MTA league i really dont think gangs should claim a spawn at all. There should be ready set places for gangs in the rules. It may not be as much fun but i think if you want to hold a place you and your gang should have to make your way there rather than start there.

I'd question that, the amount of spam coming from you "folk" recently is getting beyond insane.

Nice this is FOR SURE at 10gmt?? hope so hopefully wont fall asleep then