Toreno

is that all you can do? insult him because he says something good? hes right. eAi says that the animatins in blue are as good as in singleplayer(as far as he teste), no shit. That sounds too good to be true, thats why he wants to see the proof.

as said before, rockstar wont add an online feature. but how do you know if blue will be good? the team releases very few info about it, only die hard fans know more. yeah i totally agree with you this was my first reaction when i saw the page about blue. I still think that it will be good, but i don't believe in a revolution or something, like some people do. Only new info could convince me i guess.........

too bad i can't choose GTAT or none (GTA:C, MTA BLUE)

yes indeed, and the first release wasn't that bad, and i've read somewhere on gtaforums.com that they will release 0.2 very soon i like GTA3, but Liberty City on the VC engine is even better

i agree, it will improve the gameplay. about the anti bot suggestion, mta punkcather 0.6 is inside MTAMA 3.17. (also it detects the bot you've mentioned).

true, but in my country there s a populated server with good pings, but still there is a lot of lag, and it isn't caused by MTA, or the players, its definately the server. And scripts do add a little bit of gameplay, but script gamemodes are very simple, because the deathmatch settings stay the same.(though the creators of those scripts have done a good job) Besides, a lot of players are robber now, before 0.3, the mexican was very popular as well, i mean for example i played both, now i have to choose robber because mexican is weaker. Also the spaz is gone, i didn't use it often, but it added some gameplay.

I mean a lot of ppl played mta 0.3r2, not that they still play it. And yes there are less players than before, leagues have died,clans have become smaller and some have left the scene, most servers are empty(in my country theres only one popular server left, but it lags). there isn't much left Jon. i agree with the reasons that you give for this situation. and i also think gta3 mta is a lot more fun sometimes, but there are even less ppl playing that than mtavc. I hope blue can solve this, but it will take some time.

i remember lots of ppl played mta 0.3r2(and the official server was always full), i think most ppl dont like mta 0.4(1). thats why there are just a few players left.

your point is? i mean they are working on a new core, that takes time.

true, some features have become a standard, but gtat and mta have got some unique features, and some nice plans.

so you are saying that both teams copy some features from eachother?

example?

true, thats why draco is going to include a menu , in which you can choose if you want to play GTAT or gta vc singleplayer.

maybe you cant read, but all im saying is, GTAT is improving fast(since 0.5e), maybe you should read the changelog over and over, and read the progressupdate at the news section. that sentence isn't true. that mta was more popular at that time, doesn't make it the better mod now does it? like i said, you're wrong. MTA was more popular, which means more ppl preferred MTA, but it still doesn't mean that it is the better mod. again, you're wrong. because we all have a different opinion. so you can't say that you've proven that my opinion is wrong, because that would be bullshit. you haven't proven me wrong with the use of facts, so where did you get that from? you're not even able to anyways.

im not going anywhere, if you dont like my opinion, then thats your problem. and i never said that gtat is better than mta right now, but i believe it will be better. btw it doesn't matter which one is the best, but when somebody criticises GTAT, i just criticise mta.(not flaming like opium and the rest of the anti gtat ppl did)

well mta 0.5, will be released in 2005, thats too far away. anyway, dracoblue has made an update:www.gtat.org. if the team can release 0.5f soon, it will be perfect to expand the community, and i think ppl who are disappointed in mtavc 0.4.1, and still prefer mta 0.3r2(personally i prefer a mixed version) will play it. edit: woops i forgot something: the movies were showing the current status of mta 0.4, and as you said ppl are interested in progress and the latest MTA breakthrough, but it wasnt included in the final version, and only god knows if it will be included (or maybe even better) in mta blue. and why was the topic called mta 0.4 smoothness, while you can see that the new method wasn't so smooth after all.

talking about the videos, i meant, the 0.4 videos were crap, and i gave a suggestion for the future, 0.4 has already been released then they shouldn't release those videos any more, because its useless, ppl want to see features that will be included, not some bullshit

its a discussion anyway: yes, maybe the new method didn't work out well. but the videos were bullshit, even those weren't smooth. suggestion for the future: maybe its better to release some videos about blue that display the reality?

EDIT: i was wrong, read DracoBlue's post.

nah, dracoblue doesnt talk so much, anyway, talking about fishermanstories, hmm what about the mta 0.4 smoothness story then? note: DracoBlue has never spread lies , in relation with the features list. the features list was for the final version, NOT the versions with a letter. the featureslist of 0.3 wasn't exactly the same as the features that 0.3b actually had, but that's because of the core change(0.5). so actually 0.3x didn't really have a final version.

you dont know, because mta blue and and gtat 0.5 final are too far away, lets just first wait till 0.5f is released, and yes its true, you cant play the new version yet, but its good to see that most if not all BIG bugs from 0.5e are fixed

maybe not between 0.3 and 0.5e, but the new version has been improved already EDIT: at that time, 0.5e had great sync, more animations were sync'd than in 0.3b ( like punching, entering the vehicle etc.).

one word CHANGELOG

what im trying to make clear via the changelog is: most, if not ALL big bugs from the 0.5e version have been fixed. and also, what i meant with not much improvement is, MTA 0.4.1 has a lot of new features in compare to mta 0.2, but those new features arent always worked out well. i know its beta, and i've said before that its not possible to compare MTA 0.4.1 with GTAT 0.5(e). but im just saying that the GTAT team , is creating from almost nothing, something that will kick ass. there are some nice sync features allready: *enter the car animation *fistfighting and im not ANTI mta, i played mta for half a year, and i've enjoyed it. i hope the new core will be as good as they say

just check the changelog from the gtat site, GTAT 0.5e is 3 months old, and yes the new core will be a big improvement. but im talking about what we have right now, and whats fixed right now, and GTAT has been improved a lot in just 3 months!!!!, in compare to mta in almost 1 year with the same core(and now lets stay ontopic and stop this discussion, because its clear that you prefer MTA, and i prefer the next release of GTAT 0.5F)