Guardians Proper

I'd like to know how he did the side scrolling?! Is that a background or are they objects that you had to move each time??

That should be fun.

Is it off? Are you actually playing without cheats?! It would appear that it's off. Sorry, but I've never seen anyone with a frame limiter ON move that fast, lagger or not! And the fact that you won't admit it that it's OFF, are you lying about anything else?! I mean really, you guys are jumping around from reason to reason. First, you've seen other people do it, then it's a lag spike, then MTA is simply a beta, then Zircon has skill... Wow! Which one is it?! How about you just throw every excuse in the book at me to hide the truth... There's no evidence of any lag spikes. On a server with 5 people, or a server with 20 people. And the fact that he runs that speed all the time. I've never seen anyone else move like that because of "lag spikes", with 50 ping or with 250 ping. I'm sorry, but like I said, the whole "lag spike" issue is now proved false. Next? (Keep it coming. I don't actually expect you guys to drop the "lag spike" excuse, so make another post about how I don't know anything, or just simply say "IT'S LAG SPIKES!!" like you've been doing. lmao.) It's called a "lag spike" because it comes and it goes. Even with a 56k, he can't have a 24/7 lag spike. Besides, you've seen other people run that speed and they're all on 56k too? They have lag spikes non-stop too? Crazy stuff going on around here.. It's an epidemic..!

Meh, to conclude the argument: Zircon moves too fast for 30 fps. It can't be a lag spike; he doesn't freeze/pause at all. First, it was "I've seen many people move like that!", then it was "lag spike". Which one is it, guys? If you've seen lots of people move like that, are we all having lag spikes?! How does he have a lag spike from the time he starts playing until the time he quits?! That's a pretty shitty internet. In fact, I'd like to have it. I've played with you enough. You've always moved that speed. (Including several times on the DA server with just me, you, and 5 other people...) It's done.

I must have missed the part where the Internet can predict the future. That's almost as amazing as how fast Zircon moves with 30 frames per second!! (^ Like how I keep saying that? lmao, Zircon, bud, I wasn't fully convinced about the possibility of you cheating until you said that your frame limiter is on. lol)

Glad to see you've all stepped off the "packet spikes" excuse to posting lame pics. Now that we're advancing in the debate...

Exactly how would the game show him being there, before he actually got there?! ^ I love this quote because he moves at that speed all the time! Amazing. Not just when his packets spike. Give me a break, guys. You're not getting anywhere with this "packet spike" excuse; time to move on to another

I do know that MTA is clientside and it's reporting his exact position. He never froze, apparently. He never stopped. He shot straight over there like a rocket. It's funny because you guys are the exact people I could have guessed to defend him. Any reasons why? Anyway, this is turning into a flame war. There's the clip. I'll post the rest as soon as I can. Keep the excuses coming, though, I'll gladly update my list. kthx. ^ I love this quote because he moves at that speed all the time! Amazing. Not just when his packets spike. Give me a break, guys. You're not getting anywhere with this "packet spike" excuse; time to move on to another.

My Personal Fav!: Awesome. New Fav!: Just thought I would archive all the creative excuses that you have managed to attempt to use on us... Sorry but 56k, warpage, lag, the fact your frame limiter is ON, is not enough to slow down Zircon's movement... Sorry, but I fail to realize how spiking and 56k, and even 20 players, would make him run faster?! I mean, it's not because I don't understand the subject, it's because it has nothing to do with his running speed!!. Sorry fellas.

Hm, well, I'll use my magical hosting website... hehe. I got it down to 36 megs now, w00t. Anyway, 2 seconds is enough to see him move. A picture is worth a thousand words, and there's 63 frames in that video...lol As I said, I'd like to move like that with my frame limiter on... lol.. geez. EDIT: Never heard of a packet spike boost his running speed! He looks pretty well synced there. I don't see any warpage. You guys are so heavily defendent on the subject. I can only assume this means one thing...

Gee, why are you in on this argument? ;)

I've got the video, or atleast two of them.. I have the whole video; compressed and .rared = 39 megs. I have a slight segment of the video (About 2 seconds long) that shows all I think needs to be seen on the subject.. = A .zip file I can link you to. However, I'm not sure if I have permission to publicly post this...? For the time being: http://24.91.60.58/orion/uploader/Other/ZirconNew.zip Have fun with that. (Only 784 kb) It was compressed with DivX codec. WinAmp will play it (New versions) and DivX will play it. *If you want to host the 39 meg file for me, let me know by PM and I'll send it to you. NOTE: This video was not sped up in any way. If anything, it's slower than the actual speed it was ingame! If you watch the whole video; it seems that's the best part as you can compare the speeds to Crunch AND j0keR... Zircon has a rocket up his ass. I'd like to know how I could move like that with 30 frame rate. Wow!

You can delete your newest post by clicking the 'X'. I believe it's there for this exact situation... :P

HMM... Well, what's the release date for "Driv3r"?

Considering that I support it, why wouldn't I? The only reason I do is for the reason I just posted. If the MTA Team wants to follow a strict "We don't modify anything", then I believe that the frame limiter applies. If you don't like it, play with it on!

Well, if someone in MTA:VC wants to go through all the trouble of finding the sniper, finding a good spot near good action, and aiming that much, let them have the snipe kills!

Ah, where did this thread come from??!

Considering that it's MTA, I believe we should stick to MTA's philosophy of just using the game as it is. Since they never changed any damages or current Vice City settings, I believe the frame limiter counts the same as the rest of Vice City.

Yeah, we finished this a while ago buddy.

They haven't modified anything! Even the MTA files are separate files... It's nice they're secure enough to do that, that way they can really say "We don't modify anything."

A little off-topic, but well-placed. /me holds up a card that says "10" on it.

I'm talking about the rap he posted & the fact that I knew it was good.

Nah, I'll check it out a little later. The l33t talk in the game name ("Driv3r") isn't turning my crank; but it's clever.

Damn. I thought I smelled a record deal. Hey hey, I don't even like rap, but atleast I can spot a good one, right?

I agree 100% with that. I love the MTA Team's "Don't modify anything" policy...