Jigga Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 VCC got the best short range weapon - Ingram MAC-10, so i dont c why some1 would take the cop, faster robber i think. Link to comment
The Azer Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 it's normal rule, tell me why if i spawn sailor and im going to cs2, why i should not visit cherry, it'sl liek 10 secs to walk inside, take the Ithaca and get back into the car. And talkin bout variety of spawns. With or without the shotty every1 will still use sailor/vcc.too bad it's a normal rule for 0.5 matches yeah (lucky never heard about that rule in earlier versions), but i don't agree with u about that everyone will still use VCC/Sailor, u know that people are way to addicted to the shotty Link to comment
El sTuD`X ™ Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I think for this tournament use Shotgun pick up or all but fast.(5min) After open new topic where we can speak about "Official rules".All can say his opinion,and have rules who "all" agree Link to comment
The Azer Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I think for this tournament use Shotgun pick up or all but fast.(5min)After open new topic where we can speak about "Official rules".All can say his opinion,and have rules who "all" agree The Poll desides Link to comment
El sTuD`X ™ Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I can register 10/20 account and change the poll Link to comment
Cube Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I can register 10/20 account and change the poll exacly I think Hieu shouldnt reclaim pools result... I Think Hieu should decided himself... its hif tournament. This pool mades only unnecessary commotion. Link to comment
Capone Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 well what ever happens with Pickup rule this tourny need 4 more teams hieu are ya trying to get them? Link to comment
[XII]Fexsi0n Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 5 if the No pickup rule don't get through... Link to comment
Cube Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 omg n/c... no problem if not these clans that other will be play... if some clan catn play with Hieus rules so bye (u dont have to play), we have a lot of clans which want play. Its Hieu's tournament and him rules. Why u wont play ? do u afraid of lost ? Good clan can play with all rules, and can adapt to situation, I think Hieu should center on good referees (2 on match) ando not change rules. Link to comment
Ransom Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 dudes its not army soldiers if u like strategy and stuff go play cs or armymen or whatever. why do we have to pick calsses and shit its not a strategy game Says who? They made this game to be totally teamwork first off, but nobody followed the concept. However, gangwars started with this idea in mind. Gangs are teamwork. Teamwork requires strategy, which does not come without variety. I'm not entering VCP, I just like commenting on lameness (pickups). Also lets not forget that it causes long drawn out matches. Link to comment
[XII]RazoR Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 the problem is that all clans that vote for "shotgun pickup rule" can't actually play without a shotgun.. if they would train on more characters they would say exactly the same as [XII] and for instance Ransom.. again.. : variety is much more fun, requires more skill.. the REAL best team wins... shotgun pickup rule: everyone has the same, longrange + shotgun.. no skill required at all since you have lots of weapons.. and everyone has the same, so the other team will expect (for example) 5 sailors with a shotgun.. and here.. the best SHOTGUN team wins.. and i don't think MTA was made for just one weapon.. Link to comment
Jigga Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 u dont? /me pokes RazoR with stubby anyway, as i said, with or without the Ithaca ppl will play 2 sailors 2 vcc and 1 cop/robber, so whats the big deal. Ithaca was found the best in action game and a lot of clans get used to play with it now u came in with 'no shotty' rule. Yes, i know u r afraid coz lot of clans mastered m4+shotgun and it's hard to win a match, but hell, good team can have one shotgun man which will fall down enemies and the rest will take em out. As i said lately, Jieu's tournament, Hieu's rules. kthxbai. Link to comment
[XII]Fexsi0n Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Sure we are afraid, that's why we joined last EUNA and managed to get second with that rule implented... Link to comment
El sTuD`X ™ Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Sure we are afraid, that's why we joined last EUNA and managed to get second with that rule implented... So try be 1st now I said try Link to comment
Cube Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Sure we are afraid, that's why we joined last EUNA and managed to get second with that rule implented... and now u try change rules for u... exacly Studx: now try be first with the same rules. Link to comment
Capone Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I dnt mind wot the rules is gona be, i can fight with or with out Cop Shotgun, ..i'd prefer No Pickups cos it only seems fair (make the team think more) on the other had DNA will probly pull out if No Pickup goes thor .. Link to comment
[XII]Fexsi0n Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Sure we are afraid, that's why we joined last EUNA and managed to get second with that rule implented... So try be 1st now I said try We will if the No pickup rule get through... It has nothing to do with "being afraid" or whatever, it's just that most of us, and especially me, like matches better without pickups, I enjoy no pickup wars a lot better than wars with a shotty pickup only... Link to comment
El sTuD`X ™ Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I don't understand why FsK be moved on other group ?? CLANS Group A 1. [FMJ]? (FMJ Have Auto Qualification) 2. (RP)* - Ruthless Predators (Poland) 3. [VM] - Vaince ou Mourir (France) 4. Group B 1. [uVA] - Ultimate Vice Assasins (United Kingdom) 2. {FsK} - Fraternal Shoot to Kill (France) 3. [stK] - Shoot to Kill (Finland) 4. Group C 1. =bTk= - Born To Kill (United Kingdom) 2. [DNA] - Deadly Night Assasins (United Kingdom)? 3. PSY4~ - PsYKaTrA (France) 4. Group D 1 =NSA= - National Security Agency (United Kingdom) 2. =PCP= - Polish Connection Patriots (Poland) 3. [XII] - Majestic Twelve (Netherlands)? 4. ??? Bu isn't problem,we can fight vs all,with pick up or not,we will play and try won,if we lost we want have fun Link to comment
VCES>RonSeal Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Why don't you try the idea of allowing people to choose, what they want to play with. Personally myself I always use cop skin, it's more habit now than anything else. But i also like to have at least one Long Range weapon pick up, and a few mollies or nades, in everyday play and in matches. This process normally takes me about 2 minutes, easily done before the opposing clan get in the server or declare thereselves ready. The length of time pickups usually takes in matches is because everyone decides they need guns too, one clan normally takes all the helis, and i haven't seen many clans considering going as a group for pick ups. Hence the delay. Making it a no pick up match spoils the fun. Sure it will be quicker, but, for a lot of people, it loses it's appeal. You either have time to play, or you haven't. Allow all weapon pick ups, set a time limit, which if not adhered to on a regular basis, will kick the clan out of the tourney. Surely people can wait 5 minutes to organise before the round starts? Some clans VCES have played against have even shared heli's for weapon pick ups and behaved with maturity (not killing people b4 the round starts is helpful). I like all weapons, and all have their different qualities and all have an important role in matches. If you want a 2 minute round, all spawns at Phils and have a stubby match, which is what most people who scream "No Pick Ups" do the rest of the time anyway. Soz it's long, Rant Over. EDIT: Oops i forgot, allow pick ups and VCES are in to if allowed. Link to comment
[XII]Fexsi0n Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Well, if you love to have everyone spawned as a VCC with molotovs, M4, shotgun and whatever that's a fine way of playing, since I don't like matches to go that I'll never play that way (again)... As said before, 3 pages earlier if I recall right, everyone has his own preferences... Link to comment
Hieu.JZX26 Posted July 10, 2005 Author Share Posted July 10, 2005 Thank You for All your Votes. Next week I will talk to the EUNA board about this and whether your wishes will be granted or not. Link to comment
borosky Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 well just to clear things up its not like we CANT play without a shotty. its just that we LIKE playing with a shotty, dont u think its fun? especially the stubby is FUN, but if u wanna limit yourself with dumb restrictions heh not my type of fun. ransom, back in .3 (thats when i started playing mta) everybody was playing with full pickups. the preparations always took around an hour with all the crashes and stuff it was tragic! a fast pickups rule is a compromise. if u dont want a shotty dont pick it! you can play your army soldiers if u like.. i dont. no ones gona stop me from picking a shotty after go is called Link to comment
El sTuD`X ™ Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Yeah right.I started too in 0.3,and the 0.3r2 was perfect.Just incorporate 1/2 new of 0.5,and make 0.6 (0.3r2 base + technologie of 0.5).With that MTA will come back for fun and good war,sure Fore this tournament,PCP or FsK can win without pick up,just because we wouldn't especially won,but we want play and be enjoy Link to comment
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