Guest Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Hey does anyone know if theres a way to make vice city windowed? I hate having to Alt-Tab out of Vice city to talk on MSN and stuff like that. Link to comment
NosGoth Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 Just use Alt-TAB. L It works for me. I don't think there is a way to make it windowed and I really don't see the use of it 2. Link to comment
orappa Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 Not currently no. (with mta). I think what MrBump meant was that having it windowed would mess up all of the overlay stuff. I don't think there is a way to make it windowed and I really don't see the use of it 2. He's just given a use: I hate having to Alt-Tab out of Vice city to talk on MSN and stuff like that. Plus alt+tabbing gives him an unfair advantage over other players. Link to comment
Guardians Proper Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 Plus alt+tabbing gives him an unfair advantage over other players. Yep, because you can shoot while you're paused. Har har. Link to comment
StAnToN Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 LOL yeh it would be pretty decent to have vice city windowed! Link to comment
orappa Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 Plus alt+tabbing gives him an unfair advantage over other players. Yep, because you can shoot while you're paused. Har har. No, I was thinking more of the fact that he can't be damaged. Link to comment
<VMP>Sobeit Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 how in the hell did this topic stay up for so long?!? please admin, lock and delete this, the question has been answered, and pausing had already been discussed in other topics, and im tired of this topic being orange Link to comment
Guardians Proper Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 No, I was thinking more of the fact that he can't be damaged. Well, that's hardly an "unfair advantage"... But I see where you're coming from. I'd rather have Vice City be windowed when you "pause", rather than the pause we have now where you become invincible. Link to comment
Icy_Flare Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 People if we play this in MS-DOS mode we get no lag (fullscreen) cause msdos is the only thing working unless it gets interupted. If we play windowed say HELLO LAG. You get 50 progs running at once Link to comment
orappa Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 If we play windowed say HELLO LAG. You get 50 progs running at once A lot of people run it in a window because their PCs are too slow to run it at a decent framerate full-screen, so it might reduce lag. Anyway, most people don't close programs before they start playing in full-screen. Link to comment
Guardians Proper Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Why would Windowed mode make more lag? I leave my AIM running when I play; so opening up a few IM's wouldn't slow anything down... Link to comment
tbot Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 People if we play this in MS-DOS mode we get no lag (fullscreen) cause msdos is the only thing working unless it gets interupted.If we play windowed say HELLO LAG. You get 50 progs running at once In what age do you live? MS-DOS mode is long gone (Win2K/XP weren't build on top of DOS...). Even when you run apps fullscreen other programs get CPU time because of the multitasking nature of Windows. Though a possible windowed mode could increase CPU usage, mainly because the desktop also should be redrawn and some hardware accelleration might not work windowed. But why bother, there is no windowed mode... Link to comment
Guardians Proper Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I've played many games in Windowed mode (Tribes, Jedi Knight) and it doesn't create any extra internet lag or computer lag. It doesn't even take any extra CPU usage... Link to comment
orappa Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I've played many games in Windowed mode (Tribes, Jedi Knight) and it doesn't create any extra internet lag or computer lag.It doesn't even take any extra CPU usage... If anything, it reduces usage because it has to draw in a smaller area. Link to comment
Guardians Proper Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 If anything, it reduces usage because it has to draw in a smaller area. Well, I just assumed they meant it'd take more usage because they would have Vice City loaded, MTA loaded, and plus any extra programs they were using because they were windowed. Doesn't seem like too much of a problem... I don't think it's possible to Window Vice City at all, so doesn't that mean a complete remaking of the game itself? Link to comment
Icy_Flare Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Im sayin it COULD cause lag but still id rather play full screen cause i mean its better havin it full than windowed. It would be really tough to get it to run in windowed. Link to comment
Guardians Proper Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Im sayin it COULD cause lag but still id rather play full screen cause i mean its better havin it full than windowed. It would be really tough to get it to run in windowed. Is the work required to make it possible worth it all? Link to comment
tbot Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 If anything, it reduces usage because it has to draw in a smaller area. That's certainly not always true. In fullscreen the game itself can decide the video mode to run in. When windowed it has to conform to the desktop video mode. In cases where the color depth the game runs in isn't equal to the desktop color depth a conversion step has to be done, causing more CPU usage. And as I said before, there's hardware acceleration that might not work in a windowed mode. So, the reduction of drawing area might reduce usage, but there may be other factors that require more CPU power in a windowed mode. The actual outcome is totally dependent on the situation. Link to comment
Guardians Proper Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Changing simple desktop color depth is no problem at all. And the game doesn't have to run in the same resolution; no worries there. And in Vice City, you can adjust your game's color depth (16 bit & 32 bit). I just use the same as my desktop (32 bit)... Link to comment
tbot Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 I didn't say it was a problem, I identified it as possible source for performance loss... Link to comment
Racer__S Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Yes you can run vice city windowed.... or *almost* any game for that matter. Just get 3D Analyzer from http://www.tommti-systems.de/ And put a check where it says force windowed mode. But as Mr Bump said, it will not work with MTA because MTA must create the process itself. Link to comment
Posty Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Yes you can run vice city windowed.... or *almost* any game for that matter.Just get 3D Analyzer from http://www.tommti-systems.de/ And put a check where it says force windowed mode. But as Mr Bump said, it will not work with MTA because MTA must create the process itself. You do know this topic is a few months old, right? Don't bump old topics Link to comment
MAD_BOY Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Yes you can run vice city windowed.... or *almost* any game for that matter.Just get 3D Analyzer from http://www.tommti-systems.de/ And put a check where it says force windowed mode. But as Mr Bump said, it will not work with MTA because MTA must create the process itself. You do know this topic is a few months old, right? Don't bump old topics this was actually a good bump, cause i'm sure some people are still interested in running vc windowed in sp, so that was a good bump (you don't see those really much) Link to comment
Posty Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Yes you can run vice city windowed.... or *almost* any game for that matter.Just get 3D Analyzer from http://www.tommti-systems.de/ And put a check where it says force windowed mode. But as Mr Bump said, it will not work with MTA because MTA must create the process itself. You do know this topic is a few months old, right? Don't bump old topics this was actually a good bump, cause i'm sure some people are still interested in running vc windowed in sp, so that was a good bump (you don't see those really much) There's such a thing as a good bump? O_O Since when is a bump of a few month old topic a good bump, lol. If people wanted windowed VC, they'd make tons of topics about this Link to comment
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