-UtopiA- Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Official servers. We've been getting plagued by overly-enthusiatic cheaters for the past few weeks. By "overly-enthusiastic" I mean allout speed hacks, health hacks, invulnerable cars, unlimited ammo, ALL in ONE PERSON. And everytime they come at least 1, usually clan members two or more, and we always go and beg on the IRC server for an admin; and there's never an admin. People said "Report cheaters through the appropriate methods." Well, no one is on IRC, then what? We post a message here? And wait 3 days for them to get banned, AFTER they've left? And the bad part is that admins can't begin to understand what it's lile; everytime you play and there's a cheater, BAM, he gets banned instantly because you're there. This goes on for hours at a time and there's no admins around. I realize there are plenty of admins, but having a million admins that never log on wouldn't serve any purpose then. I'm not trying to harp on anybody here (Well, I am harping on cheaters of course), but it gets annoying when the cheaters, over time, get so accustomed to their cheating that they OPENLY ADMIT it. They rub it in our faces ("oooh ban me ban me") and everytime they come back, they use more and more cheats, and more obviously. The servers (or atleast the 10-player) have been overrun with lawlessness, cheaters running around everywhere (not the least bit exaggeration.) This is more of a plea than a critique; and on behalf of everyone on the server, I can sum it all up with one word: Help! or Please! I'm probably going to get flamed with procedures and "levels of hieracy" and certain steps to follow, but frankly, I and no one else care about steps and procedures; we want the cheaters kicked. Please, please, please... Thank you, thank you, thank you. Link to comment
DeeJee.nl Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 wOrd.. I never play on the oficial server, atleast now I don't any more, I used to log in to them every now and then in weekends, but the last few times I got there I got like flooded with cheats... So I say listen to utopia... and to me, and to many to follow I hope, and do summit bouth it couse this is a discrace to the line "oficial" in the server name.. Link to comment
-UtopiA- Posted April 9, 2004 Author Share Posted April 9, 2004 I'm going to bed, but first, I'll just point out that there was a gigantic cheat/hack trading ring in the 10-player for about two hours... Anyone with the tag [KKK] is cheating (invulerable, speed hacks) and some of the [KKK] joined tonight JUST to get the hacks (They gave their emails, said thanks, and then they used the same hacks as above). Link to comment
orappa Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 I think the problem is that the majority of the admins (if not all) are in the USA, and so I've found that they only seem to login at about 10.00 PM GMT, so I can play for an hour or two with an admin, but there's never one for the rest of the day. I really think you should have admins in different timezones to ensure that there is always one there. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 I agree so I am now moving to prague... j/k Utopia play in the MiniServer it's a 10 player and you can have admin in it. I will look into the 10 player whenever I can but like you said I can't be there all the time Link to comment
b0b0 Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Majority of the cheaters out there are just stupid kids. They know nothing about hacking; they just use trainers that have been provided to them. This is obviously due to the lack of adequate anti-cheat protection. There are so many people who have bypassed the MTA Team's precious CRC Checks. I suggest that the task of anti-cheat protection be left separate from MTA. If MTA Anti-Cheat was left as a separate project of its own, with a separate team that is working on it, it would be updated more frequently because the task of cheat prevention would be their only goal. Because it would be updated quickly, new cheats would not be able to last very long. I believe eAi started such a project, but he does not appear to be too motivated in finishing it. Even though you all seem to be patting yourselves on the back for your solution which will be in MTA 0.4, you must assume it will be cracked in days. Should someone crack your anti-cheat protection, and there is always the likely possibility that this will happen, the chaos will continue. Cheaters are literally taking control of the servers. The banning system is not good enough to ban them permanently. Wake up and smell the roses. It is either cheaters win, which simply means that the problem gets so big that the MTA project falls apart, or you take away their cheats. For good. So rather than trying to assure me that the cheating will end at 0.4, you should overkill, do much more, even if it is later found to be unnecessary, to eliminate this problem. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Cheating isn't as widespread as you say. It may seem real bad at times but Utopia is correct to think that more active admins can keep the servers clean. Who should be on this other team? Yesterday was a prettybad day for cheaters in the Partyserver but most times that server is cheat free because of sometimes overzealous but active admins Link to comment
-UtopiA- Posted April 9, 2004 Author Share Posted April 9, 2004 No one plays on the Miniserver. The party server is over-crowded and extremely laggy. The only server that gets really good lag is the KFC Private, but it's private, so no one plays there. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Noone played in the Partyserver before we made it popular. You can give ppl the kfcpwnu pass for the private there are options. We can start filling up the Miniserver ppl who don't like cheat haven servers will gravitate to cheat free servers including the ppl you play with now Link to comment
Luigi Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Yesterday was a prettybad day for cheaters in the Partyserver Kewl! The Partyserver is my favorite! Link to comment
-UtopiA- Posted April 9, 2004 Author Share Posted April 9, 2004 Kung, how did you get the Party Server publicized? I know the Officials are high traffic because the IPs are posted on the website, but the Party Server is only at the Server List and ASE... Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 We just started playing in there and posting on here. Advertising other server in servers isn't cool but you can mention you are going to the Miniserver just don't give out the IP or tell ppl to join you Link to comment
Luigi Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Hmm.. No1 is on the miniserver now, just me Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 That's how it starts get a few more on there and now you got a crowd... The crowd stays and now you have ppl adding Miniserver too the favorites list Link to comment
Ransom Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 I play almost soley in the official 24 (well 18 now) everyday now. Ever since the new official server came about I think its the best one because most pings are under 100 so I love it. So, at least I am around for awhile. I have had quite a few bans too. When not playing I scan #report now and then for people openly admitting. As for the 10 player, well I never play there so I wouldn't know. I always like playing in the larger server. So I don't know what to tell ya. I don't have admin there. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 And I don't think MrBump could echo two servers... But having the 18 in #report is helpful so admins can be set up Link to comment
JxMxB Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Yesterday was a prettybad day for cheaters in the Partyserver Kewl! The Partyserver is my favorite! I'm glad to hear that as well. When you have guys modding and spawning cars and calling themselves a "car dealer" and rubbing it in everyone's face, that's when it's gone too far. I can stay away from the health hacks (they're a pain), give up on the speed hacks (I'm too slow), and run from the ammo hacks (forget staying around and getting shot), but lagging everyone and messing around isn't cool. Link to comment
Si|ent Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 last few weeks my a*se. Its Easter Break. Some people have Real Life to attend to. Normal service will resume shortly. Link to comment
-UtopiA- Posted April 12, 2004 Author Share Posted April 12, 2004 Never seen anyone spawn cars before... Link to comment
Ransom Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 Neither have I. I just people are confused with synching. I think they just see cars that aren't synched, they are at different places for each person's screen, therefore when one gets in a car, BOOM it appears for the other person. Then... OMG CAR SPAWNING! Link to comment
-UtopiA- Posted April 12, 2004 Author Share Posted April 12, 2004 Yeah, I do see that all the time. Link to comment
OpiuM. Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 yo, i ould use a admin, why did KFCz ban Point_ , kuz he quit KFC? thats just cold. Link to comment
Aeron Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 i want to volunteer to be admin of the offials cause i'm the hated Admin on the GTA network server (I make chaos out of peace and peace out of chaos ) Link to comment
Guest Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 I watch over the 18 Player official server. I do what I can to stop and prevent cheaters whenever I see them, but I too must sleep, work, eat.. Live.. On the subject of cheats, please check out my poll and tell me what you think.. Vote, perhaps it will be heard Link to comment
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