question from one programmer to another

[Drake]

my friend as a hacker told me that you were able to disable the ability of third party apps from seeing it in the task list

im currentally working on a game and wanted 2 know if you could pass the info on how you did it

[Jani]

your trying to make a trainer?

[Black Dragon]

your trying to make a trainer?

no... he asks how does mta find stuff in the task manager, to implent in his own program hes making

[Mike]

your trying to make a trainer?

no... he asks how does mta find stuff in the task manager, to implent in his own program hes making

no... he asks how to hide your program from other programs accessing it

[MrJax]

Isn't he asking how to disable seeing third-party applications in the task manager?

[Black Dragon]

oh.. then nevermind!

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your trying to make a trainer?

[MrJax]

He's making a game of some sort, and doesnt want the process/application to appear in task manager...i think

but MTA does appear in task manager, so i'm not sure what he means

[Jani]

hes basically making a trainer.

[XcR]

hes basically making a trainer.

jani, stop speculating, your posts are all either spam or insulting someone. let him explain for himself

[Cam.]

The Task List as in...

The Task Manager, or the Task Bar? And as for Jani, you have no clue, now do you? People just make way too many assumptions.

[Guest]

Look guya just read what the bloke is saying:

Hes creating a program, and does not want that program to apear in the task menu while his program is running.

So as its on an MTA forum its pretty obvious that he wants to create a trainer and bypass MTAs shoddy anti cheat system.

Tell him if you like how to do it because Im notn familiar with Windows behind the scenes coding and stuff (if indeed the solution were to lay there).

LINUX all the way.

[orappa]

Which language is your friend using?

This'll help him if he's using VB, but the API calls may be similar for C++ (I have no idea):

http://www.mentalis.org/tips/tip047.shtml

[darkdreamingdan]

umm john u sure its a good idea to post that yet, unless he comes up with a suitable reason why he wants to hide it?

[HardCoRe.]

he means in programs like WPE pro, and tsearch, why the MTAClient doesnt show up.

and how to make this the same for his game.

MTAClient.exe still shows up in the taskbar, and im not certain, but i think MTAClient just hides itself from MFC apps, correct me if im wrong.

[eAi]

You're wrong.

You can't hide any apps from the task list. You can hide them from the Applications list, but thats kinda pointless in 2K/XP +

eAi

[Drake]

i dunno wat progs my friend uses but hees a security tester for games

he said

"when i try to find the process its hidden"

im developing a program as an addon to Robot Arena 2

but im worried about people useing it to their advantage

ive used an api call to find the window name of open processes and made the program terminate when it finds a process to make cheats or edit memory

i found a way some people do it as to regrester it as a service but that only works in windows 98.

ps. im familer with VB6, VB.NET, Java, and Python im taking C++ as a language next year though i know a little bit of C#

[Kent747]

i believe in 2k/xp if you set hte application name to null, then it wont appear in the applications list, but as eai said thats kinda pointless as it will still show up in the processes list, which is where it is likely to be detected if the user isn't a noob.

[Drake]

ok another question ..

did you use a direct x hook to spawn new characters or did you modify the peds and let them be controlled by the server?

[Kent747]

the directX hook only allows us to draw stuff in the game, the peds you see are controlled by other methods, and are completely within the gta engine still

[Drake]

o ok cuz im working on a new project we used a pso exploit on the gamecube to mod RE4.

one final ? in a dll how would you call a method in the parrent class...

i know in java its super but what is it in c++