*InD.eX Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 hello..first of all...thanks for another version of MTA.. i know youve all been working very hard to release this asap.. But there are a few comments that i wanted to post.. Making mta 0.5 not a "robber version" its good that it isnt possible to jump with stubby anymore... but now half of the stubby animation can be skipped by just scrolling. it reminds me a bit of the so called "runglitch". Weakenening the stubby was a great thing to do. but ive noticed many weapons,have been weakened. the purpose of removing the stubby-jump is to prevend the robber from being the dominant character ? for prevending 80% of mta players spawn as robbers.. ? as far as i have seen,robber is still the dominant character,simply because you can do moves legally while in mta 0.4.1 you needed a hacked client,or glitch to do some moves. Im still a bit frustrated about the decreasing m60 damage.. in my opinion,the m60 was already a weak weapon cus of the less bullits. i thought the m60 damage schould be increased and more ammo has been added... its just the other way round. Not jumping with nade is a good way to prevent glitching... but i still cant figure out why you guys have disabled the ability to run with a nade.. Chainsaw,m60,stubby..i can understand..heavy weapons.. but a lil nade ? a good combinating in my eyes is- -removing the abilitiy to "scroll away" the stubby. (quickly after a shot) -Adding the ability to jump with stubby. -Decreasing stubby damage even more. This makes the robber a weaker character. -increasing m60 damage and/or adding more bullets -keep the jump with nade disabled,add the ability to run with nades/molo's i want to make sure this doesnt sounds like bitching or w/e i love every version that you guys release,and will keep it playing no matter what. Just my comments,perhaps some useful info or comments comes out of this topic?. the VC stunt is very very neat.many people love it *sorry about my bad english* keep up the good work guys! ~Sparks *P.s If you guys think this topic is like whining or bitching,dont hesitate to delete it. just posting the way i see things The VC stunt is very very nice.
Slothman Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 I beleive the reason you cant run with the nade is because running with a weapon and jumping with it are related somehow (like holding the rocket launcher).
*InD.eX Posted February 1, 2005 Author Posted February 1, 2005 forgot to add * prevending from being robber chosen too much could be not to put the robber at startup..in the selection screen
XxX Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 ye but its started to annoy me i gotta get used ot it. With robber i think jump should be readded, with reload for scroll so u cant switch glitch, and to stop crouching make it so when u crouch u can run off u have to press crouch again to stand up that will slow them down.
Black Dragon Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 I beleive the reason you cant run with the nade is because running with a weapon and jumping with it are related somehow (like holding the rocket launcher). correct. there is a flag in weapons.dat which is called 'heavy' weapons like the rocketlouncher have it, and it disables both running AND jumping. is it clear now?
*InD.eX Posted February 1, 2005 Author Posted February 1, 2005 @ junx yea.. altrough i think the jumping with stubby is a way of glitching to.. but i think all 0.4.1 robbers saw it as.. "The way of the robber"
MrJax Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) I beleive the reason you cant run with the nade is because running with a weapon and jumping with it are related somehow (like holding the rocket launcher). correct. there is a flag in weapons.dat which is called 'heavy' weapons like the rocketlouncher have it, and it disables both running AND jumping. is it clear now? Howcome some weapons, you can jump and not run? Why isnt this possible in reverse? Edited February 1, 2005 by Guest
DominionSpy Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 There was a topic somewhere before 0.5 came out, where we were discussing the Stubby and M60. In there most people were agreeing that reducing the Stubby damage and increasing the number of bullets for M60 were sensible. I don't get why they've now taken the M60 damage down to 15 (only one higher than M4) and still haven't given the Mexican any more bullets. Now which is better:- 250 bullets of 14 damage (Sailor) or 75 bullets of 15 damage (Mexican)?
*InD.eX Posted February 1, 2005 Author Posted February 1, 2005 sailor is shooting faster also.. Mex is gonna be just as exterminated as VCC was/is at 0.4.1?
Falcon Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 I have to agree with sparks here, there's no point in becoming a mex, cuz of the bullet damage etc.. My suggestion would be, give 150 bullets to a m60, with 25 hit damage / shot. Just my 2 cents..
XxX Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 ye mex does need more bullets in clan matchs mex is hardly ever used, id like to see them return and cause chaos.
Gareth Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 i think the no jumping thing is crap most definetly a lot of people are ignoring VC DM for Shoreside Vale DM coz this thing was done
*InD.eX Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 i wonder when 0.5.x is coming out... i hope pretty soon... i see many people quitting mta becus of this
orappa Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 i wonder when 0.5.x is coming out... i hope pretty soon...i see many people quitting mta becus of this Tell them to play GTA3. Shoreside Vale's heaps better for DM.
Gareth Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 rofl yeh i have never seen gta3 servers so full
Gareth Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 i prefer flame/stubby combo lol its like burn their ass and then stubby them works real well coz u spawn as yakusa with flamer and then u can buy 15 stubby excellent
SnYp3 Posted February 7, 2005 Posted February 7, 2005 lol jakkas ur the fool that said warping is the same as jumping...and no it isnt mate
Bishop Posted February 7, 2005 Posted February 7, 2005 Was a conspiracy from the start, lets royally fuck up vice so people leave it alone. Cold turkey is hard, I am going to miss MTA.-
DeathB Posted March 3, 2005 Posted March 3, 2005 *cough* http://forum.mtavc.com/viewtopic.php?t=11221 *cough*
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