Ransom Posted October 27, 2003 Posted October 27, 2003 I think there should be an idle timer to kick people out if they idle for more than 15 minutes or something. Also, the big thing is having them on the radar. It sucks going up to someone only to find them alt+tabbed. Is there a way to make them NOT show on the radar when alt+tabbed? That would be cool. Offical B.L.A.S.T.A.ddict VCP - winners of the official MTA tournament (undefeated!) /smug
me Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 Idle kick = it would have to be a server option. If a gang war was going on, people might not go ingame for the first 15 mins. Official B.L.A.S.T.Addict I love the intelligent conversations we have in #nsmapping wait, did I say conversation? I meant :~flinging
Robpol86 Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 even better, y not, NOT pause game when minimized?? if it works, it would b for the best. fu xerox, i hate you
Robpol86 Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 yes it does... thats how u dont die and ur "forzen", and when ur in a mission, and u alt tab, it esc for u and the enemies wont shoot ur ass fu xerox, i hate you
me Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 I'm pretty sure that making it so you weren't paused when at the menu would fsck up GTA:VC... Official B.L.A.S.T.Addict I love the intelligent conversations we have in #nsmapping wait, did I say conversation? I meant :~flinging
Outback Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 yes it does... thats how u dont die and ur "forzen", and when ur in a mission, and u alt tab, it esc for u and the enemies wont shoot ur ass Yes yes I know. But you could just hit Esc instead of Alt+Tab...
Robpol86 Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 I'm pretty sure that making it so you weren't paused when at the menu would fsck up GTA:VC... then U rewrite the gtavc engine! Yes yes I know. But you could just hit Esc instead of Alt+Tab... yes, and not pausing when u hot esc is also in thought... fu xerox, i hate you
[PiG] Ponch Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 Robpol86 wrote: then U rewrite the gtavc engine! tsk, tsk I don't think that's covered in Rockstar's EULA. how about removing their markers from the map if not spawned and if there is NO user input for X minutes automatically timeout the connection to the client. That's how most games I've played do it and that would cover the people who alt tab and the ones who just sit there and don't spawn for ages. As for not having alt-tabbed people on the radar this could be handled by the same 'no user input' sub-routine (if paused and idle time > 30 sec then remove marker on radar) just to tell the person trying to mess up the AFK person that they can't this is my 2 cents last thought: even a different colour for paused people would tell others not to waste their ammo on that particular person I look like a cop... You may think [PiG] are gone. You may think I'm dead. We're not. We're just undercover...
Ransom Posted October 31, 2003 Author Posted October 31, 2003 I would just want them off the radar map. Its annoying to find someone but they are alt tabbed. Offical B.L.A.S.T.A.ddict VCP - winners of the official MTA tournament (undefeated!) /smug
me Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 Perhaps just change their nametag to a different color (orange is my suggestion), and make the health bar white, to show that the person is alt-tabbed. Official B.L.A.S.T.Addict I love the intelligent conversations we have in #nsmapping wait, did I say conversation? I meant :~flinging
Ransom Posted October 31, 2003 Author Posted October 31, 2003 I just think the easiest solution would be having a trigger to take them off the radar. Maybe a different color in their nametag or bar... Offical B.L.A.S.T.A.ddict VCP - winners of the official MTA tournament (undefeated!) /smug
b0b0 Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 Maybe some kind of icon on the radar to indicate alt-tabbed players. Even better, an icon above there head if you see them.
[KFC]KungFu Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 Wouldn't this open up the possiblity of ppl who are incorrectly identified as alt+tab shooting you? If so you couldn't trust it so we would be where we are. I just give em a swipe with the chainsaw/hammer/bat etc and move on Although, It is a pain when you hunt them down on the ass end of island and they are paused.
Robpol86 Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 if the possibility of being able to kill them when their alt-tablled/esc'ed is nonexistant, then, the simplest way would be to remove from radar (or sum type of unique symbol/color blimp) and flag the character with a symbol/color fu xerox, i hate you
Dealer Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 cant u just stop GTA being able to alt tab or pause, make it so all settings need to be set b4 the game starts, and to change them u have quit. disable the esc and alt+tab keys Online games arent meant to b pausable, if u need to do smoething u either leave it as it is, or stay on character selection screen, simple as {ULK}Dealer I'm Back ? Did i ever Leave ? If u saw some random guy running around ur server killing u all, it was most likely me!
BullzeyeVC Posted November 4, 2003 Posted November 4, 2003 I think alt'tab should just be disabled altogether alot of trainers/cheats like ramcheat the hacker needs the ability to switch to the trainer to get the effects on. Maybe it would help stop some of it from happening. Cheating is probably the hardest because I don't think the engine was coded to make memory addresses random like some of the more cheat proof games.
Boss Posted November 4, 2003 Posted November 4, 2003 I'd rather see 'ALT-TAB' on a player's name,rather than disabling it.Like I go and colect shotguns,and then get the Spaz,but have to go and brb,wouldn't it piss you if you couldn't pause? 2:59 - Robpol86: hold on im trying to steal someones identity
b0b0 Posted November 4, 2003 Posted November 4, 2003 I don't like the idea of someone being taken off of the radar if they are alt-tabbed. If you gave someone who is alt-tabbled an icon on the radar you would know to stay away from that person. I find the alt-tab feature very useful; I can go back and forth between IRC and GTA without worrying about someone killing me. An icon would put a stop to people whining about alt-tabbers, because you would KNOW they are alt-tabbed. Wouldn't this open up the possiblity of ppl who are incorrectly identified as alt+tab shooting you? Removing them from the radar would open up the same possibility.
[KFC]KungFu Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 I don't like the idea of someone being taken off of the radar if they are alt-tabbed. If you gave someone who is alt-tabbled an icon on the radar you would know to stay away from that person. I find the alt-tab feature very useful; I can go back and forth between IRC and GTA without worrying about someone killing me. An icon would put a stop to people whining about alt-tabbers, because you would KNOW they are alt-tabbed.Wouldn't this open up the possiblity of ppl who are incorrectly identified as alt+tab shooting you? Removing them from the radar would open up the same possibility. I wrote what was quoted in this quote. My point is that either changing the radar or removing them from the radar opens up the possiblity of someone who isn't alt tabed but is credited with being alt tabbed killing you. (confused myself there) In either case you let your guard down. If it is a crash, fine what can you do, but if you just want to check irc wait until you die and are at the character select screen to alt tab. no need for a mod except in playing habits.
BullzeyeVC Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 NO, I wouldn't mind not being able to pause an online game. As a matter of fact this is the only one I can think of that pauses when I do. I would be willing to accept the fact that I could get shot if I did an alt-tab, but seeing that I don't think that too feasable due to the games engine, I would rather not be able to alt tab. If it is important enough for me to go back to windows I can just as easy leave the game and re-launch it. It takes less then 60 secs for the game to start.
Magus Posted November 6, 2003 Posted November 6, 2003 this problem would probably be solved if the server handled the data. Right now the players hold the data and if someone is paused the game is set to where you can't take any damage from anything when paused. If you were alt-tabbed out then the server would not recognize it, and just think your still there in game, and you would be killable. At least thats what I believe, in theory.
Slothman Posted November 6, 2003 Posted November 6, 2003 id hate to say it, but i do think alt-tabbing should automatically disconnect. it would cause a lot of headaches, yes, but too many times have i engaged them in battle, only for them to alt-tab before dieing untill i go away. people seem to think of it as a valid form of defence, and i think its just cheap. Check out my recent work: ZDay - a zombie script Slothbot - an AI deathmatch bot my community profile (all my resources)
Ben Lagg Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 Yes, ppl Alt+Tab in situations they would normally be killed. It should leave the character in the game, still taking damage 'n such. Also be sure to make 100% certain they are dead. A few extra stabs, shots, hits, or kicks sure won't hurt anything. - Creatures Of The Night by U.L.T.R.A.
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