bullet hit issue ?

[Xucas]

well i just came from a very frustrating game ...

i've read a lot of cheating messages here in the forums ... but i never found someone cheating ... i had been called a cheater ... but hey i know i'm not cheating ...

back to the point ... i had many frontal confrontations with one specific player ... not telling the name cause thats not the issue ... that never died ... i unloaded clips and clips and clips of all the weapons pluss nades on him and he stoped in the middle of the road shooting at me ... i dodged bullets running all around and hidding behing trees .

the point is i died three times ( one i exploded in my own car and was suicide) and kept coming back and he never died ... i called him a cheater ( yes i sucumbed ...) and he told me i was the cheater ... so i said the he nearly never hit me and he said i was standing in a puddle of blood ... meanwhile other players had this problem with him too ...

with this in mind i thought that maybe it's a mta bug ... and many of the so called cheaters only have this problem ... probably what hits in one game doesn't hit on the other one ... which is kind of a bummer cause i never had this problem before and if it is a problem must be hard to repeat ...

ps: before on the same game i did encounter something very weird ... i was trying to make some cool jumps and was on the fastest bike, started before a yellow porsche and he caught me and passed me while i was near full speed ( well i was going for a long time) this must be someone using a moded version ?cause this bike is supposed to be the fastest vehicle (except the coppter)

[Blokker_1999]

there is some small issue with not shooting straight

[SM Gulag]

That Porsche definitely has a modded handling.cfg. I don't mind modded cfg though, unless it is unrealistic, people mod their cars all the time. it doesn't cause game crashes like everyone thinks. This is a list of what causes game crashes:

-People disconnecting servers while they are in a car.

-People using trainers.

-People using Map mods, or replacing cars with new ones.

-People w/ extremely high pings that lag the game out.

[Si|ent]

Usually it is merely lag, your client sees him in the position he was a split secodn before and therefore registers a hit, whereas in his he has moved on, but this accounts for maybe 50% of 'fake hits' so if you REALLY cant kill the guy, especially if he is using a weapon that requires him to stand still, then he probably is in fact cheating.

0.2 will make this a lot easier to judge thanks to the health bars.

There are some issues with Z axis (shooting someone above/below you) that mean u can both stand dead still and appear to be hitting each other when u are both in fact missing. The best way around this i have found is to spray your shots up and down by a full player height, that way some will hit. (usually indicated by your target moving out of the way pretty sharpish )

SM Gulag, you are incorrect, and i will thank you not to undermine the mta teams official line on what causes problems. i think you will agree we have a much greater understanding of what does what in mta than yourself.

A modified car is unacceptable for 3 main reasons, One yes it CAN cause crashing and horrendous desync, if it is 2 inches thinner the driver can squeeze thru a gap that other players clients wont accept. resulting in the car being stuck at the entrance for all other players, and the cheater (yes CHEATER) driving on. Cue desync which can lead to crashing for both the cheat and the other players.

The second reaon is it is CHEATING, you have an unfair advantage, handling, speed, size etc all non-standard, destroying the chance of a fair race/chase.

Thirdly it is a breach of the user agreement. Read it, we can take any action we deem nececcary to deal with people who break the agreement, including hard coding thier details into future releases to prevent them playing at all.

[SM Gulag]

You're right. I was just going on my own observations. I've never had the game crash, when I see people using modded .cfg cars. that's all. Sometimes the game just crashes. Sometimes my game just crashes and everyone else is fine. I don't know the details of the problem, I just know that it is annoying.

[Xucas]

well the modding of cars can get anoying, like MrBump said, it can piss off other players as it gives unfair advantages, there are many situations where this is important, specially in game modes (which is why there is such a fuss about cheat protections)... but for now just giving an example of a situation i was in ... when you're trying to do some stunts, there is a guy that comes like a bat out of hell and knocks you off your bike ... i mean it's ok if he comes at you and you have to get out of his way ... but if he comes from behind, using special advantages ... well, i just dont like guys anywhere near my behind

there is some small issue with not shooting straight

is there some improvements on this subject on 0.2 ?

There are some issues with Z axis (shooting someone above/below you) that mean u can both stand dead still and appear to be hitting each other when u are both in fact missing.

well it's a shame ... cause this may explain some of the cheaters out there ... we (i place myself on this category ) have to be more carefull when crying out CHEATER!!!

[Boss]

Y its really anoying.

But its hard to fix.

The main prob is that it keeps hapening all the time(This is getting really bad for my reputation.No its not my conection),I was slicing him for a good distance with the chainsaw and he was getting hit,but infact he wasnt.Sometimes I shoot a little further than whats on my screen and it hits,he warps to the place where I shot(usually 3 steps near)and appears.

Hope u fix on 0.2

BTW could u give an explanation/reason for the rare warping cases?Like when I enter a can on the spawn and fall off of the car on the Military base,seconds latter.(Just wondering )

Keep up the good work

[Xucas]

it is said somewhere in the forum, that sometimes when a client enters he doesn't receive the current vehicle location, so all the cars that usually are in the spawn area, are there for him ... so when he enters the car ... you're 'jacked ...