Men.T.oS Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Hey, ALT TABing doesnt work for me, even "window button" or ctrl alt delete, nothing happens. I tried using window mode, but thats same, I cant get the mouse on minimalizating button.
Dark Dragon Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 that's how its supposed to be. write "window" in the console
Men.T.oS Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 that's how its supposed to be. write "window" in the console I tried that, but still i cant minimalize the game, it just shows X button and others, but i cant move my mouse on them I can, but its very hard
Gamesnert Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Windowed isn't meant to make you able to minimize... -.- It's just so you can do something else in the meantime. (I don't even need windowed! I have 2 screens ^^)
norby89 Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 in window mode, bring up the console or the chat, that will make the cursor appear
Men.T.oS Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 in window mode, bring up the console or the chat, that will make the cursor appear thanks, but still windowed mode is reducing my fps a bit
Gamesnert Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 in window mode, bring up the console or the chat, that will make the cursor appear thanks, but still windowed mode is reducing my fps a bit Nothing to help that. Whatever game you play in windowed mode, it's ALWAYS slower than when you play the same game on the same PC in fullscreen.
Men.T.oS Posted August 25, 2008 Author Posted August 25, 2008 in window mode, bring up the console or the chat, that will make the cursor appear thanks, but still windowed mode is reducing my fps a bit Nothing to help that. Whatever game you play in windowed mode, it's ALWAYS slower than when you play the same game on the same PC in fullscreen. And when im windowed and try to walk slowly with ALT , it starts to make weird Windows sound, really you should put ALT tab function in DP3
Gamesnert Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Would be nice if they could. You know, for as far as I know, if you alt+tab you receive and send a lot less information through your cable, making it annoying for others. Like health not dropping, disconnecting etc. Or if you were in a car with someone else driving, you are suddently in the water and don't know how. And it's not necessary. Buy dual-screen or do it in windowed mode.
Dark Dragon Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 really you should put ALT tab function in DP3 no
haybail Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 They say the GTA engine pauses when you minimize or esc to the main menu causing most noticable invulnerable or eratic sync. But no mention of what specifically happeneds when you alt tab, although it may be said the above happeneds when you lose focus. In window mode, the built in one to mta, you can't lose focus unless you minimize but in some of the older dll's you can alt tab and overlay new windows above gta. You could check how that affects sync and if as badly as minimizing like in sa mp or the older mta's. Because you can't lose focus in the built in one ( without minimizing ) I would quess mta would of tested and known exactly. Or played it safe.
robhol Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 They say the GTA engine pauses when you minimize or esc to the main menu Yeah, too bad the GTA engine is impossible to modif... oh, wait..
Gamesnert Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 They say the GTA engine pauses when you minimize or esc to the main menu Yeah, too bad the GTA engine is impossible to modif... oh, wait.. I don't think MTA will ever modify the GTA engine if that's what you're pointing at. I wouldn't like it if that happens. It's cool how it is, still singleplayer without any harm and multiplayer that's still good too! ^^
DiSaMe Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 I think minimizing the game must be possible. Cheaters? They use windowed mode and don't care about FPS. And there are much more ways to cheat. And sometimes when you MUST go to desktop, you have to exit the game. This is much more annoying than cheaters.
Gamesnert Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 I think minimizing the game must be possible. Cheaters? They use windowed mode and don't care about FPS. And there are much more ways to cheat. And sometimes when you MUST go to desktop, you have to exit the game. This is much more annoying than cheaters. There is indeed another way: Dual-screen. Just attach 2 monitors to your PC and you can switch between them. But cheaters aren't the biggest issue! As haybail said: They say the GTA engine pauses when you minimize or esc to the main menu causing most noticable invulnerable or eratic sync.But no mention of what specifically happeneds when you alt tab, although it may be said the above happeneds when you lose focus. In window mode, the built in one to mta, you can't lose focus unless you minimize but in some of the older dll's you can alt tab and overlay new windows above gta. You could check how that affects sync and if as badly as minimizing like in sa mp or the older mta's. Because you can't lose focus in the built in one ( without minimizing ) I would quess mta would of tested and known exactly. Or played it safe. That looks like a bigger reason for me! So it should become possible. But only if you're DISCONNECTED. And then you can just quit. Only deconning saves almost no time anyway...
x86 Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Windowed isn't meant to make you able to minimize... -.-It's just so you can do something else in the meantime. (I don't even need windowed! I have 2 screens ^^) Jup One screen for scripting/reloading mta etc.. and one screen for mta (game)
Guest Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 I really wont buy a dual screen just for mta but heres an alternative, Make it so u can use window mode in-game not only on the load up screen and maybe make it so wen u press ALT + Enter it enters/exits window mode as it is quite annoying having to log out of the game and type windows mode just to check ur messages, Also if you think window mode is tooo small try this, Enter window twice in the console then it lets you stretch the screen (Cache: Not to the best graphics)
Gamesnert Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 I really wont buy a dual screen just for mta but heres an alternative, Make it so u can use window mode in-game not only on the load up screen and maybe make it so wen u press ALT + Enter it enters/exits window mode as it is quite annoying having to log out of the game and type windows mode just to check ur messages, Also if you think window mode is tooo small try this, Enter window twice in the console then it lets you stretch the screen (Cache: Not to the best graphics) Lol, let it resize to a tiny little square! But I noticed that in windowed mode, MTA would stay on top... Quite annoying. Luckily I don't need it!
DiSaMe Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 A little question to MTA developers: don't you think that making it able to minimize the game doesn't stop cheaters? What about those noobs who are using trainers? So if player is a cheater, he will find another way to cheat if first way doesn't work. And server admins can take care of them, don't they? Alt+Tab to avoid death, then ban! Simple. Ooohh, i have an idea. Make events onClientMinimizeGame and onClientRestoreGame or something like these. That should work good because that could be controlled by script. For example, canceling onClientMinimizeGame event could do it just like it's always done now. Or just inform others about alt+tab, so it would be easy to decide if player is cheating. And of course, it should be able to Alt+Tab when player not connected to any server.
Gamesnert Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 A little question to MTA developers: don't you think that making it able to minimize the game doesn't stop cheaters? What about those noobs who are using trainers? So if player is a cheater, he will find another way to cheat if first way doesn't work. And server admins can take care of them, don't they? Alt+Tab to avoid death, then ban! Simple.Ooohh, i have an idea. Make events onClientMinimizeGame and onClientRestoreGame or something like these. That should work good because that could be controlled by script. For example, canceling onClientMinimizeGame event could do it just like it's always done now. Or just inform others about alt+tab, so it would be easy to decide if player is cheating. And of course, it should be able to Alt+Tab when player not connected to any server. I think minimizing the game must be possible. Cheaters? They use windowed mode and don't care about FPS. And there are much more ways to cheat. And sometimes when you MUST go to desktop, you have to exit the game. This is much more annoying than cheaters. They say the GTA engine pauses when you minimize or esc to the main menu causing most noticable invulnerable or eratic sync.But no mention of what specifically happeneds when you alt tab, although it may be said the above happeneds when you lose focus. In window mode, the built in one to mta, you can't lose focus unless you minimize but in some of the older dll's you can alt tab and overlay new windows above gta. You could check how that affects sync and if as badly as minimizing like in sa mp or the older mta's. Because you can't lose focus in the built in one ( without minimizing ) I would quess mta would of tested and known exactly. Or played it safe. Cheating is not the only worry, and allowing it will give problems anyway. Not sure if events will improve it, but I don't think so... =/
Mr.Hankey Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 In dp3 you can minimize the game when you're not connected to a server.
Gamesnert Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 In dp3 you can minimize the game when you're not connected to a server. That was his problem actually!
Lordy Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 btw, I don't know how/why, but I can also minimise when I'm in windowed mode and just press on the MTA bar at taskbar. Just like any other windows.. I guess that must be a bug then?
Gamesnert Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 btw, I don't know how/why, but I can also minimise when I'm in windowed mode and just press on the MTA bar at taskbar. Just like any other windows.. I guess that must be a bug then? Not with alt+tab, but with the button right?
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