VCES>RonSeal

VCES won round 3 i hear ......

So right Oli (says the original 4way organiser of yesteryear) Unfortunately im not involved this time due to a sick PC Keep it running though, i wont be long

/me racks brain....searches forum.... ask brophy

Lo Smog, hope to pop in the server soon. Jani, Tokers fine, just not MTA'ing atm....

VCES are interested, i'll confirm it later. In the meantime, change round 3 to 'Team Death Match'

Off topic i know but.... I've just noticed the 'Developer' bit under Oli's name What is it your developing Oli, your role within the team, /me looks elsewhere for answer ...

Don't u dare take my fleet of cop cars away

Come on Dom, how big is the golf course? The 3rd round is City Wide TDM. The Golf Course is open without buildings, and the lame part would of been if we defended the entrance, which we didn't. At times we had people on both sides of the golf course, literally super spread, certainly not defending. If we had stood on the beach, the effect would of been the same. Taking a building and holding it, that's defending. And besides, we went onto the golf course as every FMJ member had a huge mofo vehicle (enforcer,firetruck,army truck,etc.). We cancelled out your vehicular advantage Feet vs Big Truck

GG, nothing wrong with the 3rd round Whats wrong with making war in the leisurely setting of a golf course

Everyday, without a gap for over 18 months. Two reasons: I pay for a server, why not use it. As long as the cars work im happy PS Oli, bring back the ambulance

I believe there is, i'll ask our person who ran MIRC off a linux server. He used an emulator of some sort.

lol PM me your ip, i have seen you play without any problems, and we can easily ban you again if the claims were correct.

ambiguities : Doubtfulness or uncertainty as regards interpretation: “leading a life of alleged moral ambiguity” (Anatole Broyard). Something of doubtful meaning: a poem full of ambiguities. I didn't consider the match was lacking in moral ambiguity and i didn't catch your latest poem, despite trying.... Helikills though, are illegal good game nonetheless, same time next week ?

At least 0.5 crashes less than 3.2. The gameplay does seem worse than in 0.5 than 3.2 though. Swings and roundabouts. I'm happy with this version personally, but then i never used the Stubby much in the previous versions.

Lucky for you, and , can they spell

Yeah, CSS matches speak to Box. MTA matches speak to us, we are bringing any of their MTA players into VCES.

Websites which may have the word 'trainer' in, msn's address's which may have the word 'trainer' in........ If you leave MSN on whilst playing and someone changes there name to 'Trainer' for a laugh , you get the same problem. See what other programs may be open which could have a possible 'trainer' word in it. EDIT: Whilst reading this thread and typing my reply, i got kicked off my own server Weather Changed: Sun VCES>DJMills killed Johnnio101. (Fire) KOTH> VCES>DJMills has captured the house (Vercetti Estate) from Johnnio101 Denis has joined the game. VCES>DJMills killed Terry. (Shotgun) KOTH> VCES>DJMills Killed an intruder! Disconnected: Suspected trainer usage. (Delay = 10 sec)

Too slow amigo VCES and BSB are already in 'Affiliation' talks But feel free to speak with Box also, he's a very nice man

'Cerbera'= A fine example of Common Sense.

Quig my friend, that is exactly the attitude we don't want moderators to have. This discussion has been heated, but included many valid points. It is also an ideal oppurtunity to resolve these issues that have been under the surface all along. In some respects, we are the 'customers' of MTA and we deserve at least the right to free speech. As long as it isn't abusive, libellous, racist, homophobic, etc it should be allowed. The rules here are very restrictive and criticism is frowned upon. It's not ideal and it certainly isn't effective. Don't alienate everyone, deal with the specific problems. The vast majority of threads are not spam filled. A blanket deletion shows lack of regular care, which allows, over time, a large number of crap in 40 pages. If you wish to be effective and fulfill the role of 'Moderator' do it on a daily basis, don't just wait a while,then delete everything ! That is lame i'm afraid

I feel along the same lines as DB and Kung on this. The forum rules are excessive and in no way work. In essence, free speech is also restricted due to the great 'Spam' crusade. I agree whole heartedly with your approach to spam and pointless threads, i hope that i myself am not one of your worries. Making this an 'Info Only' forum will kill it, please do not take that course of action. I look at my own VCES thread and i do see spam and pointless flaming posts, though not as many as you would expect. I look at FMJ's thread and i can barely find any problems in it at all. My thread is 34 and close to the magic '40'. FMJ is 23 and eventually reach '40'. First question. Why 40? Second Question. What does deleting FMJ's, my thread, other clan '40' thread's achieve? My post count is moderate after a year or more of being here, and a clan leader. I did once get banned for moaning about moderation in this forum. Before that post i had never, ever been in trouble with any mod at any time. All in all, why do you feel the need to be so heavy handed 'across the board'? You penalise all due to a minor core being disruptive, ignoring rules, etc. Moderation is akin to mediation. No where else have i ever seen such a regime in action on a forum. Your rules in themselves do not promote a happy forum, and such an atmosphere created by the 'Rules' helps to keep it under used. Only regulars and the usual influx of 'never staying' noobs use this forum. I agree with your policy on rules regarding spam etc. Leave the innocents alone and moderate like others do elsewhere. The 40 page rule is a prime example of bad moderation, if it is space you need i have an unlimited supply, just ask. The rules here are wrong, if you find moderating here difficult, resign and find more pro active, caring replacements. Nothing personal

Fingers Crossed .......

At least im not the only one

He's alright is old Kent. Yes he did mod once,when he first entered the MTA arena. I personally believe he learnt the lesson he needed to, and that's the end of it from VCES.