[KFC]KungFu

I am the leader of KFC, thee main gang in MTA and I have never said a bad word about UA. Jackal has been a good guy, responsive and friendly. He allowed us to admin one of his servers for him while ours was DDosed. We haven't fought you yet but I hope we do at some point. I understand how it can look like a tight click that's not willing to let new gangs get a chance to grow because they may get too strong. I didn't inherit this gang. I built it when no new gang survived. a gaggle of VC? gangs and SM were kings of the hill and new gangs came and went. I have never underestimated or belittled smaller gangs because mine started with 1 member. I want many super strong gangs because I feel competition is the only reason to sustain a gang. I have also been plagued with the unsubstantiated cheating accusations, so I know how hard they are to combat. And I have had to deal with the one bad apple not spoiling the batch when we have had cheaters in the gang. Plus the negativity and arguing that seems to go hand and hand with this type of organization. I am aware of all these things and I am sorry you feel my little gang is a contributor... btw, you missed the mark with you top 3 by a long shot.. there are many more gangs such as FKU, VCES, FMJ etc. that you missed.

I think we need to wake up the War Stories thread... This is one I wrote in January after somone pretended to be a girl to catch somoene else cheating in MTA ... laugh

Is the script for this ready? What servers would we play on? We could run GTA3 on the gangwar server but I would need to either have Nutz available for the match or give him notice.

Not so, infact most the glitches have been removed with it. No "pistol glitches" or no double shots anymore mainly, etc. It's just a good close range gun, and since most battles end up that way, it works out for the best perhaps.-DooN Sorry to stay off topic... Right now there is no way to remain competitive with the stubby shotgun without somehow skipping the pause and reload anim.. namely by crouching or jumping aka Glitching. So what I said about only glitchers being able to use the stubby is 100% accurate. MrBump, I would like to see the pedestian become a bit more nimble (jump a bit higher and run a bit faster) if possible and have a slightly easier time with setting a car on fire. (either strengthening the weapons or weakening the cars)... After this is accomplished I think car killers deserve full credit for the car kills

i would even go a step further and make it so that you wont loose money if you get killed by a car, its already enough to loose your weapons and i think that if carkilling would be rewarded this mod would end up in a destruction derby (which it already is now) Yeah but don't you think it's a bit of a mixed message... I think car kills should get credit but since it's an easy kill it needs a bit more balance. Jumping higher would be a help and more powerful carkilling weapons.. like mollies or the M16. If you do make it easier to avoid a car kill then they should be left alone and given full credit for the slightly more difficult car kill. Nutz had an idea to make people ration thier kills by taking the keys away after a car kill for a period of time.. that might help too If car kills are bad then make damage 0... but I don't think anyone would support that. but if you did you could hit and knock people down and then get out for the kill.

80% that sounds great

I don't think the stubby is nearly as overpowered as in the last version. I never use robber anymore because they made it so only glitchers can use it now. I prefer the automatic weapons and the katana. I can kill robbers well enough. What is annoying is that there is always a mass of people at the robber spawn still. but this thread is about the car killing in GTA3 GTA3 is much more challenging and you may have bad habits to break from Vice City. about the cars for the next release I would like to see one of these things happen - Proper credit going to the car killer or - Zero health lost from car hits. I prefer the first one. If we are going to say car killing is part of the game then people should get credit or even partial credit.

is this it you ask.. well no. It's it for now but it could change. I do want to get people interested in this game so we can get more servers available. To do that I think the trick will be to coax the car killers to get out and fight, maybe even show them what to do to kill and make them into better players. Call them noobs and kick them and they will go back to Vice City and not come back. They will also share that opinion with people who won't bother to try LC. Helikills were always annoying but legal and discourgaged by vetran players. I have said a few times that this still isn't as bad as car killers in GTA3 but it is the closest comparison. I don't want to scare away the main people who play there like you but I also want to make sure the most people get the most use out of that server and a blanket ban on car kills wasn't doing that for us.

Yeah, This is basically the point that made me rethink PartyServer's policy regarding car kills. DooN pretty well crystalized what is my reasoning to allow car killing from here on out. this point compounded with the idea that new players might only play in our server made me rethink this. I do not want a new player to get kicked for car killing after not reading the MOTD and have this turn him off of this verison of MTA I would like people to have a positive first impression of this game so the demand for more servers grows and the LC version becomes as popular as the VC one is now.

NsaneGangsta has been around sience 0.2 I can vouch for this as well, I've seen him cheating. Speed Hack and Invulnerablity... Dissapointing that someone who's been around for a couple revisions would start to hack, but I suppose that'll happen. I have kicked and banned him before.. more than once but what do you expect... he is NSANE!!!!!!! anyway it seems like many of these sigthings are on the official servers. Those servers give the most new people a first impression of MTA I wish they would allow more people to admin there.

Well they would be used for regular combat for sure and not just cars. I don't know if that's good or bad... Upping the damage on the AK would be good and I think flamethower takes cars out pretty well too. I think all the arguments and problems with car killing stem from people (me included) trying to make GTA3 into a LC version of the MTAVC we know and love. The problem is that it's a different game not just a different city. We let it all hang out in the PartyServer yesterday and if you played like you would in VC you were roadkill. If you adjust your habits a bit you can stay alive and enjoy the game. It's a different experience from what I was used to but I guess that's good.

I personally don't have a problem with car kills because I usually watch my back and jump right over their car. I can see how less experienced players could be turned off by it so it's probably best to outlaw it. I'll update the MOTDs tonight. oops.. umm hold up on that Nutz I saw Jordan in the server with a few others and thought we could try it with car kills in to see how bad it could be. Honestly it's must be because of the stress involved with enforcing the rule, but it was more fun. Very annoying when get killed but it's better than arguing all the time too. I think it would be fair and smart to allow the carkills until we get enough feedback saying they should be outlawed again. People who love this version have few other and no better options than partyserver. So let's see how it goes for now at least.

the link didn't work for me but the ad did... Goodluck and if you want a match let me know. thanks

I didn't want to register on there just to give my opinion to the one guy who posts there and doesn't even play MTA. It's safe to say I am the unnamed party in that article. PartyServer LC is the GTA3 server with the most people and lowest ping and I am the person who made the "Avoid car kills" rule. KFC Nutz who runs the server told me he felt car kills were annoying but we have to live with them. I told him what we were up to and he didn't tell me to stop. I will let him know how it has been going and get his feedback. It's ultimately his call but I have been given some say as to what the policy is and we are normally on the same page. I also need to get a hold of him to get the MOTD posted... sorry about that. About the issue directly thou... Back in version 0.3 many servers put a ban on helikilling. They felt it was a noobish way to kill and it disrupted the far more honorable way to kill, namely glitching with the stubby... it's funny even to type that... but it's true. PartyServer was a no holds barred server. The thinking is that if it's not cheating it should be allowed. Helikilling was not as easy as some said it was and even thou the car killers and heli killers were called noobs and lamers by people who played they were never kicked. Same as today in PartyServer VC My point about GTA3 killing was overlooked in Jordan's article thou, even thou it was in the same thread as posty and loendal. My reason for talking about Helikills is that they are the closest thing to GTA3 car kills. The difference: - In GTA3 people work hard to survive and accumulate money - Car kills are instant - Car killers do not get credit for the kill... So you can't hunt them down as Jordan suggested if you don't know who they are. I am hard to hit with a car. I am not a noob who doesn't watch his radar I have been playing MTA for a long time and I am if not the best at it certainly one of them. GTA3 Car killing disrupts the competion by stealing the weapons and money from the victim, awarding money to a random 3rd party and giving the killer no credit. You could accumulate the most money without running anyone down or killing with guns if you are in the right place at the right time... Even if the instakill was credited correctly it would be an easier pill to swallow. If this were Vice City I imagine it wouldn't matter what one server did in relation to another. The market would decide and people would play where they wanted. We may have a quasi monopoly on LC right now and some people who disagree with the rules but love the version and server are frustrated. I want to make the most people happy and not a vocal minority. These servers that Nutz set up were meant to be widely appealing and open from restrictions. This car kill thing is the first time we ever tried to put a restriction on legal gameplay. It maybe wrong who knows and I might try it the other way but I assume I will hear as many complaints from the other side. P.S. Also the current policy is to give the person who car kills several warnings before slapping them to death with admin or kicking them. We have not as far as I know ever banned a car killer. Even in that server car killing is not cheating and they deserve the benefit of the doubt because it can be done so easy that you may not be able to avoid it.

Really? How did you do that Nickl?

You really are an ass... Hopefully a mod scurries along and edits that link in a hurry. I would but I am not a mod... anymore... I hope you get anal warts

Yeah That Should Really Give Him Away In No Time... oops

Sorry to make the loser grammarian post but it's funny to me that you said "meen" and "dumbasses" in the same sentence... laugh You wanted MTA with bots for offline play... good idea

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It didn't annoy me until you just pointed it out.. thanks anyway out him.. please

hey can an mod out this guy.. it's would be funny. he can't be one of mine.. I think its an unofficial gang rule in KFC that you must break off and start your own gang once or twice...

Get in a server and impress someone Locked

Well he never claimed it was the ultimate spelling gang

I had that but I handled it

They do play games and more than likely played this on PS2 Vice City isn't a real place... except to me that is They have made Mortal Kombat, StreetFighter and other Video Game references.. WuTang I mean