Gareth Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 (edited) Today i took time to research what really goes on at the MTA hosting companies and the server specs from the companies. These figures came from the ping command in the MSDOS command prompt. All pings have been tested by a UK user as these are british companies. Oxidehost.co.uk Ping Figures from Oxidehost.co.uk at his only ip 212.18.254.167 (for MTA) average ping in milliseconds (from independent user on msn): 25ms from UK Reaction: Most of the other hosts as you can see below have more than one machine to host MTA Servers on and this is rather dissapointing. The ping on Oxidehost.co.uk is substantially larger than the other retailers. I would only choose this retailer as a last resort or if finances were a problem. The pings from my PC were even larger than that. Fr4g.co.uk Ping Figures from Fr4g.co.uk 1st server: 213.230.209.159 2nd server: 213.230.209.155 3rd server: 213.230.209.156 average ping in milliseconds (from independent user on msn) : 13ms from all three machines as calculated Reaction: It is good to see that Fr4g.co.uk have respect for their customers and spread the mta servers evenly throughout all their systems giving a firm advantage to the player and the consumer and from this they have achieved a low ping. Fr4g is now an established gaminghost and has done well from pleasing their customers. This would be the best buy on the list in my opinion. Box-Blue.co.uk Ping Figures from Box-Blue.co.uk 1st Server: 217.146.85.14:2003 2nd Server: 217.146.85.11 average ping in milliseconds (from independent user on msn) : 20.5 ms from both as calculated Reaction: BoxBlue.co.uk are a new retailer of servers and I have found their pings are relatively low and for a new provider to MTA i find that it is very good that they started off with 2 machines that is impressive. Give this retailer time and it could be one of the biggest retailers in MTA servers in the UK. Jolt.co.uk Jolt however do not sell MTA Servers but just as a comparison for when you are playing on them. Jolt use one machine for their 2 mta servers 82.133.85.11 their average ping was 18ms Reaction: This is the same as fr4g id definetly have a lot of fun on these servers when they are full due to the nice pings. this would also indicate that you should keep them at a good priority for ordering other games Wojjie.net (for US clans) Wojjie.net have multiple servers but we tested one from [FKU] clan USA and it has 35ms latency for that particular server Reaction: That seems bad compared to the UK hosts but you would have to compare it with other US hosts and by the way if there are any more please pm it to me thanks a lot Gservers.nl (European Clans) Ping statistics for 217.170.21.65: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 27ms Ping statistics for 217.170.21.66: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 27ms Ping statistics for 217.170.21.225: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 28ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 28ms My response: that is very good considering its from the UK if i could get a dutch person to analyse GServers.nl it wud be much appreciated. But in addition to that GServers.nl have been a good name in MTA for a long time now. Clanplanet.co.uk (tested by a british MTA player) Average Ping: 23ms Clanplanet has multiple systems but we only pinged one system as they have not sold any servers yet. My response: ClanPlanet is a company that is focused on other games rather than MTA but however leaves the option open to consumers and has reasonable clan packages for all. I would definetly consider this company if you are looking for a nice clan arrangement. Uber1337.co.uk (tested by a british MTA player) Average Ping: 21ms Server Tested on: FMJ Deathmatch My response: I think like ClanPlanet.co.uk this company is focused a lot more on other games and I think FMJ have arranged a private order with this company but on their website their is an order form for it so who knows really. From my time playing on it today I found that it was quite a stable server. E-Frag.co.uk (tested by a british MTA player) Average Ping: 18ms Server Tested On: Grand Larceny Stunt My response: E-frag have for long been a quality symbol in gaming (about since MTA 0.3) and they have a quality name in MTA and other games. And this shows it. But however the cost of these servers are quite pricy but I would still recommend chosing it. note if you have any more hosting companies to analyse from different countries please post your results here they would be much appreciated (I need more US and European gaming server companies) Edited February 18, 2005 by Guest Link to comment
Ransom Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 How about those Jolt servers? They gave a few to MTA awhile back and they host... search the forums for Jolt and try them out (a UK company I believe). Of course, you should try Wojjie also. Link to comment
Gareth Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 yeh but id need an american tester for wojjie Link to comment
Guest Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Oxidehost don't have a number of servers due to the fact that we have built the latest high tech "super server", this provides the same as 2-3 normal servers built into one large server box, with multiple processing units. Server load never exceeds above 30%, also with a 1gbps that hasn't gone above 30mbps I also find this adequate to hold all of Oxidehosts MTA Servers stable. Oxidehost servers are hosted in the London Data-Centre in a leased area, I live in Bristol(South - West, England) and my ping is 15ms to the server. Oxidehost do have a number of other servers just not for MTA, if we ever see a "lagg issue" we can immediately expand load across multiple servers, meaning that your servers cannot be affected. We do offer a refund policy, if anyone is unhappy with there server for any reason they can have a full refund. So far 0 people have requested a refund. Link to comment
Posty Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 yeh but id need an american tester for wojjie No problem. Add me to MSN and I'll test it out however you want me to. Link to comment
*SmartiE* Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 (edited) from looking at Jakkass's Ping's from the oxidehost Servers his Range between 50-80 and hes from Ireland My Pings range from 20-40 and that is in the UK Jakkass's pings are much higher due to having a S HITTIER connection so his doesnt really count ok down the the point i Have Pinged the Oxidehost Servers and The Fr4g Servers so now i will paste in the Readings i got UN EDITED OXIDEHOST Pinging 212.18.254.167 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 212.18.254.167: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=5 Reply from 212.18.254.167: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=5 Reply from 212.18.254.167: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=5 Reply from 212.18.254.167: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=5 Ping statistics for 212.18.254.167: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% l Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 26ms, Average = 24ms ------------------- FR4G Pinging 213.230.209.155 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 213.230.209.155: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL Reply from 213.230.209.155: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL Reply from 213.230.209.155: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL Reply from 213.230.209.155: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL Ping statistics for 213.230.209.155: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 50ms, Average = 37ms ----- As you can see location May be an Issue or maybe down to the connection ----- i have nothing against fr4g i like there servers but this point needed to be made Edited February 17, 2005 by Guest Link to comment
orappa Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 from looking at Jakkass's Ping's from the oxidehost Servers his Range between 50-80 and hes from Ireland My Pings range from 20-40 and that is in the UK Jakkass's pings are much higher due to having a S HITTIER connection so his doesnt really count Yeah, but he didn't do the testing. Link to comment
Gareth Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 a british user took the tests Oxidehost= 11 and 11 servers on 1 system is not very good Fr4g have 3 systems to cater for their customers and facts are facts at the end of the day its not about sales here its about quality Link to comment
*SmartiE* Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 read my updated Post its got my results in Link to comment
Gareth Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 thats bull lol mine are from a trusted source Independent of any company. Smartie is a reseller for oxidehost so he is going to say that isnt he Oxidehost don't have a number of servers due to the fact that we have built the latest high tech "super server", this provides the same as 2-3 normal servers built into one large server box, with multiple processing units. figures are figures oxide Link to comment
*SmartiE* Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 im incharge of the MTA Section so Jon u ping the servers and give us your Results to shut jakkass up and btw ive just dont the Box-Blue servers Reply from 217.146.85.14: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=1 Reply from 217.146.85.14: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=1 Reply from 217.146.85.14: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=1 Reply from 217.146.85.14: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=1 Ping statistics for 217.146.85.14: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 23ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 25ms Link to comment
Mike Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Gservers.nl Ping statistics for 217.170.21.65: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 27ms Ping statistics for 217.170.21.66: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 27ms Ping statistics for 217.170.21.225: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 28ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 28ms Not bad considering i'm in the UK, you could get someone closer to the servers to test them Link to comment
Slothman Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Just post the facts people, if you think someone is lieing on their numbers, post your own. Link to comment
orappa Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 There's one problem with your stats, Smartie - you should have pinged all three Fr4g servers and averaged the pings. I noticed that 203.230.209.159 was faster than the one that you pinged (203.230.209.155), giving me an average of 13ms as opposed to 29ms. Link to comment
orappa Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 (edited) Hmm... interestingly I now get 13ms average from the second Fr4g server instead of 29ms. Edited February 17, 2005 by Guest Link to comment
Gareth Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 thanx jon i will update that figure so Link to comment
MeanpantheR Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 intresting topic - i find fr4g.co.uk the best Link to comment
orappa Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 thanx jon i will update that figure so Don't update it with my figures as it would be pointless comparing them with this other guy's figures for the other companies. Also, is 25ms really that bad? All of these servers have good pings. Clearly Oxidehost has the highest out of UK ones tested (presuming that the stats you posted are correct) but I still think 25ms is a good ping. Edit: You missed out Game2XS btw. Link to comment
Gareth Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 (edited) ingame the latency always gets higher, and its variable for different users and if he bitchpacks any more onto 1 server its gonna get way worse Edited February 17, 2005 by Guest Link to comment
Guest Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Reaction: Most of the other hosts as you can see below have more than one machine to host MTA Servers on and this is rather dissapointing. The ping on Oxidehost.co.uk is substantially larger than the other retailers. I would only choose this retailer as a last resort or if finances were a problem. The pings from my PC were even larger than that. Thanks Jon, so you need not put "substantially larger" or as a last resort as it is perfectly fine. I believe all of the servers are near enough equal, as none are fully loaded so cannot be maxed to there full speed. Also your position(City etc) is a key issue in this, I chose to host my servers in london as it has the largest population. Also the datacentre our servers are hosted in is the uks "backbone", this meens most communications from all isps go directly to this datacentre to access other countries. Link to comment
Gareth Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 the tester was british oxide from an area near london thats the very best you would get for me it reached 100 in game in Dublin which isnt that far from the UK. and for top performance at times the other hosts would be preferable these are the facts put into line not any bias im just saying it how it is anyway back on topic i need a few more european hosts and some more american hosts (to compare to wojjie.net) Link to comment
Guest Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 I don't live that near to london it takes me around 4-5 hours to drive there, jakkass your ping gets higher because the bytes simply get backlogged. The distance to the server probly does not help but your connection speed could also add to this, im sorry you cannot experience a full gaming experience in Oxide servers. Everyone else seems to not have this problem in Oxide Servers. Link to comment
Gareth Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 oxide thats bull i have been updated by my ISP to 1MBit this Tuesday night so i tested it on 1MBit so backlog is not enough for me. now the UK tests are over so get over it please, anyway i have to finish the United States and Europe those people should contact me Link to comment
Guest Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 As I explained, distance may also be a factor. Also 1Mb is alot different to 1MB, so your connection speed can still be a issue. Link to comment
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