0.5 = high ping?

[Zircon]

Well...

Seeing as how no dev has responded to this, I guess it's safe to assume that they don't know what's wrong or don't how to fix it.

Not a good thing... increased bandwidth usage creates a problem for both the players and server owners alike. Is the question 'why does 0.5 consume more bandwidth' that difficult to answer, or is everyone really that clueless?

[ijsf]

Because of the security improvements in 0.5 the client now needs more CPU usage and bandwidth.

The bad pings could be caused by a internet connection which is simply too slow (56k) or too less CPU power. Make sure you're not running any CPU intensive applications (except for GTA3 or GTA:VC and the MTA client).

So basically the system (and bandwidth) requirements for MTA are higher in 0.5.

[VCES>Willy]

ahh, i see.

so basically you see it as an improvement, and it happens to be unfortunate for those without broadband or a not good enough CPU.

Is this likely to be improved? i have just come out of our server where i was attempting to train, frequent time-outs, mta client random closes, crashes, packet loss and lag made the once-enjoyable game unbearable.

if it isnt going to be fixed my mta boots may be hung up.

[Zircon]

You just wiped several people off the playing field, then. I strongly disagree that implementing ANY new feature at the cost of stability is a good idea. A higher demand for bandwidth and processing power will only severely limit the amount of people that can play this game.

And I unfortunately fall into that category... well, it was fun while it lasted.

[orappa]

You just wiped several people off the playing field, then. I strongly disagree that implementing ANY new feature at the cost of stability is a good idea. A higher demand for bandwidth and processing power will only severely limit the amount of people that can play this game.

Security always comes at a cost unfortunately.

[ULK!Nick]

tell that to spybot

[Zircon]

Security always comes at a cost unfortunately.

But giving up stability for something less important (the 'security improvements,' which have yet to be explained in detail, so I'm assuming they're very minor) is too costly.

The MTA team took their focus off gameplay long ago...

[VCES>Willy]

The MTA team took their focus off gameplay long ago...

I'll agree with that!

[ijsf]

Stability and security are both important. Sometimes better features mean higher system requirements. Just don't complain if you're playing on a Pentium III 500mhz system with 96mb RAM or any other low-end system.

[orappa]

But giving up stability for something less important (the 'security improvements,' which have yet to be explained in detail, so I'm assuming they're very minor) is too costly.

I'm not sure that they will ever tell us. If people know too much about it, it's easier to find ways around it.

The MTA team took their focus off gameplay long ago...

You have to remember that it's not as easy as modding something like Half-Life. This has a lot of technical barriers that need to be overcome.

But I do have a question for IJs: how come GTA3 pings are generally lower than VC pings?

[ijsf]

Shouldn't make any difference. Maybe GTA3 is less CPU consuming than Vice City, so the MTA Client gets more CPU usage.

[VCES>Willy]

My CPU is fine - its a P4 2.52 Ghz - i realise that i only have 64k ISDN - but when that is fine for any other game it's slightly annoying, to say the least, that this game is unplayable.

[Zircon]

I'm not on a low-end system either, so that's not my problem (though I'm sure it would be for some). I'm just using 56k... that however did not render the game unplayable until now.

The system and bandwidth requirements (or recommendations, really) for previous versions were already high enough. Performance should not get worse per new release. More and 'better' features isn't any excuse...

You've bogged the game down with so many new additions that only a limited amount of people can play now, and those that actually can can't fully enjoy it because you also took your eyes off gameplay in the process.

Edited February 17, 2005 by Guest

[Gareth]

im on broadband and getting this problem

512Kbps ADSL

and get 40 ping on Wolf Enemy Territory

i come to play this and its 400 average

and cpu usage does not affect ping b4 anyone says that but i have good pc specs

[XxX]

lol i feel sry for ppl with these ping problems.

You and capo are having them.

You tryed formating ya hd?

[Gareth]

i really cudnt be arsed lol

[Gareth]

sorry to rebump and all but I just want to appeal to the MTA team that they try to fix this ping problem because im really considering leaving it if the latencys arent fixed because i can get 40 ping on Wolf ET and in MTA i keep getting kicked from MTA:MA.

[XcR]

sorry to rebump and all but I just want to appeal to the MTA team that they try to fix this ping problem because im really considering leaving it if the latencys arent fixed because i can get 40 ping on Wolf ET and in MTA i keep getting kicked from MTA:MA.

lmao pwned

[Gareth]

lol yeh pwned

*update CounterStrike Source average of about 70 ping*

if a game that runs on the half life 2 engine can get less of a ping than MTA there is seriously summat wrong lol

[Gamefreek]

I dont seem to have this problem like everyone else. When i played 0.1-0.4.1 i was using cable and my ping was usually around 50-60. Since 0.5 came out ive had DSL and my ping has been lower, maybe 40-50. Seems weird going to a slower connection lowered my ping..

[VCES>Willy]

well i can play enemy territory with no lag complaints - and use teamspeak at the same time on 64k. i cant even play MTA. dont think i will be again tbh, there is no point.

[Zircon]

dont think i will be again tbh, there is no point.Same here.