Jay91 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Hello, I have very low FPS in MTA SA. GTA SA and SA:MP run at 80-105 FPS but in MTA I get only 5-7 FPS while playing a server. MTADiag Log- http://pastebin.mtasa.com/513827830. Link to comment
0 solidsnake Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Did you try to lower the graphics from Settings > Video ? Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Yes I tried running it in low settings and reinstalled drivers too but it did not work. Link to comment
0 MTA Team ccw Posted May 25, 2015 MTA Team Share Posted May 25, 2015 Connect here and paste the results: mtasa://178.32.44.73:22003 Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Benchmark results - 2015-05-25 16:40:24 --------------------------------------- Lua exec MHz: 2973 Part1(sea) FPS: 1 Part2(grove) FPS: 1 Part3(peds) FPS: 1 Part4(cars) FPS: 1 Player Name: John Player Ping: 190 Player Version: 1.4.1-9.07246.0 TestMode: none VideoCardName: Intel® HD Graphics 4000 VideoCardRAM: 4088 VideoCardPSVersion: 3 VideoMemoryFreeForMTA: 3210 VideoMemoryUsedByFonts: 0 VideoMemoryUsedByTextures: 0 VideoMemoryUsedByRenderTargets: 8 SettingWindowed: false SettingFXQuality: 3 SettingDrawDistance: 100 SettingVolumetricShadows: true SettingStreamingVideoMemoryForGTA: 256 AllowScreenUpload: true DepthBufferFormat: intz VideoCardMaxAnisotropy: 4 SettingAnisotropicFiltering: 4 SettingAntiAliasing: 3 SettingHeatHaze: false SettingGrassEffect: true Setting32BitColor: true Resolution: 1366 x 768 --------------------------------------- Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 MTA starts up using my Intel HD 4000 with which I got 20-35 FPS before. GTA and SA:MP start up using my AMD Radeon HD 8730M with which I get 80-105 FPS. Link to comment
0 MTA Team ccw Posted May 25, 2015 MTA Team Share Posted May 25, 2015 Thanks. I can see there is a big problem. When did you start using Windows 10 build 10122 ? Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Is the operating system the problem? Link to comment
0 MTA Team ccw Posted May 25, 2015 MTA Team Share Posted May 25, 2015 If the problem happened when you start using Windows 10 build 10122, then it could be that. Look in Windows update for any patches. Otherwise it's holding out until the next build and hope that fixes it, or going back to the previous one. Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Can anyone tell any other possible problems and how I could fix them? Link to comment
0 Nikolai47 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I think this is a Windows 10 issue, here's my log: ---------------------------------------Benchmark results - 2015-06-04 13:53:05 --------------------------------------- Lua exec MHz: 3912 Part1(sea) FPS: 28 Part2(grove) FPS: 27 Part3(peds) FPS: 28 Part4(cars) FPS: 27 Player Name: SAES>Nikolai Player Ping: 0 Player Version: 1.4.1-9.07246.4 TestMode: none VideoCardName: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series VideoCardRAM: 4085 VideoCardPSVersion: 3 VideoMemoryFreeForMTA: 3215 VideoMemoryUsedByFonts: 0 VideoMemoryUsedByTextures: 0 VideoMemoryUsedByRenderTargets: 1 SettingWindowed: true SettingFXQuality: 3 SettingDrawDistance: 100 SettingVolumetricShadows: true SettingStreamingVideoMemoryForGTA: 256 AllowScreenUpload: true DepthBufferFormat: intz VideoCardMaxAnisotropy: 4 SettingAnisotropicFiltering: 4 SettingAntiAliasing: 3 SettingHeatHaze: false SettingGrassEffect: true Setting32BitColor: true Resolution: 1600 x 900 --------------------------------------- Link to comment
0 Noki Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) Build 10074 was fine for me, but as soon as I upgraded to 10130 (after a fresh format + install) performance issues started to arise. Edit: I also noticed that proxy_sa no longer exists for me now. Edit 2: I think MTA might only be running on one GPU, the integrated one (Windows 10 laptop, dual-mode AMD and Intel graphics). I'm using the latest 15.5 AMD drivers. I heard DirectX12 was supporting running two GPUs simultaneously at once. Maybe that is the root of the cause? Edit 3: I found a half fix. You just need to update your Intel Graphics drivers to ones that support Windows 10. Use this tool to do so. It got my FPS from 11 to 29. Edited June 6, 2015 by Guest Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 Same here. My FPS decreased after I did a clean install of 10122. 10074 was fine. I did a clean install of 10130 but it had the same issue as 10122. And proxysa.exe is not there for me too. Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 Build 10074 was fine for me, but as soon as I upgraded to 10130 (after a fresh format + install) performance issues started to arise.Edit: I also noticed that proxy_sa no longer exists for me now. Edit 2: I think MTA might only be running on one GPU, the integrated one (Windows 10 laptop, dual-mode AMD and Intel graphics). I'm using the latest 15.5 AMD drivers. I heard DirectX12 was supporting running two GPUs simultaneously at once. Maybe that is the root of the cause? Edit 3: I found a half fix. You just need to update your Intel Graphics drivers to ones that support Windows 10. Use this tool to do so. It got my FPS from 11 to 29. Didn't work. Link to comment
0 sebihunter Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Same problem on 10130 Win10 build --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Benchmark results - 2015-06-06 09:29:29 --------------------------------------- Lua exec MHz: 2623 Part1(sea) FPS: 1 Part2(grove) FPS: 1 Part3(peds) FPS: 1 Part4(cars) FPS: 1 Player Name: [url=TG://Sebihunter]TG://Sebihunter[/url] Player Ping: 0 Player Version: 1.4.1-9.07274.0 TestMode: none VideoCardName: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 VideoCardRAM: 1024 VideoCardPSVersion: 3 VideoMemoryFreeForMTA: 767 VideoMemoryUsedByFonts: 0 VideoMemoryUsedByTextures: 0 VideoMemoryUsedByRenderTargets: 0 SettingWindowed: true SettingFXQuality: 3 SettingDrawDistance: 100 SettingVolumetricShadows: true SettingStreamingVideoMemoryForGTA: 256 AllowScreenUpload: true DepthBufferFormat: intz VideoCardMaxAnisotropy: 4 SettingAnisotropicFiltering: 4 SettingAntiAliasing: 3 SettingHeatHaze: true SettingGrassEffect: true Setting32BitColor: true Resolution: 1280 x 800 --------------------------------------- Other games work completely fine. Only MTA is affected in both windowed and fullscreen. Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Just found out that my FPS is normal when I am in jail in CIT. Link to comment
0 MTA Anti-Cheat Team Dutchman101 Posted June 12, 2015 MTA Anti-Cheat Team Share Posted June 12, 2015 Just found out that my FPS is normal when I am in jail in CIT. FPS usually is pretty much higher than anywhere else if you're in an interior (as you're describing) because it has to render much less. I've had it too on W10 but got the (for me working) solution as I describe to you below: It's a pretty long list of steps but as it's a high chance of solving this problem you may find it worth the effort. First open MTA, go to settings and see if Disable driver overrides option is checked, if it is uncheck it. - Use the latest driver on your onboard graphics. For your laptop get and install this: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/24973/a08/win64_153336.exe (also newer) - Don't use the ''engineering sample'' of your dedicated GPU that comes with Windows 10, but instead use the most recent driver for your laptop: (http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-catalyst-windows-beta.aspx > select win8.1 64 version) - Update intel chipset: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20775/eng/SetupChipset.exe Now delete your gta_sa.set. The problem may be related to DX12 and codecs, so get this codecs (http://www.codecguide.com/download_k-lite_codec_pack_full.htm) and select only codecs (excluding player) for letting it install systemlevel codecs only that you need. Then open commandprompt (cmd) as Administrator, and enter & let run the following: Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth Make sure you're connected to the internet and you havent disabled Windows update and/or its service. As soon that finishes reboot your PC, then again open cmd as administrator, then enter: sfc/ scannow Then again reboot your PC once its done. Now go to Control panel, then Programs and components and look left up for ''Turn on or off Windows features'' and look for Legacy components then disable/remove DirectPlay checkbox, let it disable, then reboot your PC and go to the same window and Enable it again and let it re-add DirectPlay. Now use an DirectX updater, not the web installer but the full redist package: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109 and let it install from after you extracted it on the desired location using DXsetup.exe. Then open up your Intel driver configuration page, reset all settings to default (if you got nothing like important custom configs there) and select your default GPU to be used as ''powerful ATI GPU'' or something like that. Now blank your 3D/application settings, and if its visible set global settings to always use the ATI GPU, if you can enable this per application add Multi Theft Auto and gta_sa.exe processes in that list and do the same for it, apart from letting it use application's default settings. Also go to your ATI/Nvidia dedicated config page and reset everything to default, then do basicly the same thing: select it to 'Use application settings'' or similar on global and also on Application specific settings for MTA/GTA processes. Links in this guide were adapted to [TPO]Johns' laptop hardware, you can use the same guidelines apart from your own most recent drivers. I think the problem is a combination of DX deprecation/removal in that W10 build to make place for updated one, drivers adapted to this coming with it by default and the inability to restore to correct internals due to an system component store corruption bug that comes with this build making you unable to get any effect of re-enabling DirectPlay for DX after doing it following the step (this can be solved with the sfc /scannow and Dism on cmd instructions) Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Just found out that my FPS is normal when I am in jail in CIT. FPS usually is pretty much higher than anywhere else if you're in an interior (as you're describing) because it has to render much less. I've had it too on W10 but got the (for me working) solution as I describe to you below: It's a pretty long list of steps but as it's a high chance of solving this problem you may find it worth the effort. First open MTA, go to settings and see if Disable driver overrides option is checked, if it is uncheck it. - Use the latest driver on your onboard graphics. For your laptop get and install this: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/24973/a08/win64_153336.exe (also newer) - Don't use the ''engineering sample'' of your dedicated GPU that comes with Windows 10, but instead use the most recent driver for your laptop: (http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-catalyst-windows-beta.aspx > select win8.1 64 version) - Update intel chipset: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20775/eng/SetupChipset.exe Now delete your gta_sa.set. The problem may be related to DX12 and codecs, so get this codecs (http://www.codecguide.com/download_k-lite_codec_pack_full.htm) and select only codecs (excluding player) for letting it install systemlevel codecs only that you need. Then open commandprompt (cmd) as Administrator, and enter & let run the following: Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth Make sure you're connected to the internet and you havent disabled Windows update and/or its service. As soon that finishes reboot your PC, then again open cmd as administrator, then enter: sfc/ scannow Then again reboot your PC once its done. Now go to Control panel, then Programs and components and look left up for ''Turn on or off Windows features'' and look for Legacy components then disable/remove DirectPlay checkbox, let it disable, then reboot your PC and go to the same window and Enable it again and let it re-add DirectPlay. Now use an DirectX updater, not the web installer but the full redist package: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109 and let it install from after you extracted it on the desired location using DXsetup.exe. Then open up your Intel driver configuration page, reset all settings to default (if you got nothing like important custom configs there) and select your default GPU to be used as ''powerful ATI GPU'' or something like that. Now blank your 3D/application settings, and if its visible set global settings to always use the ATI GPU, if you can enable this per application add Multi Theft Auto and gta_sa.exe processes in that list and do the same for it, apart from letting it use application's default settings. Also go to your ATI/Nvidia dedicated config page and reset everything to default, then do basicly the same thing: select it to 'Use application settings'' or similar on global and also on Application specific settings for MTA/GTA processes. Links in this guide were adapted to [TPO]Johns' laptop hardware, you can use the same guidelines apart from your own most recent drivers. I think the problem is a combination of DX deprecation/removal in that W10 build to make place for updated one, drivers adapted to this coming with it by default and the inability to restore to correct internals due to an system component store corruption bug that comes with this build making you unable to get any effect of re-enabling DirectPlay for DX after doing it following the step (this can be solved with the sfc /scannow and Dism on cmd instructions) Did not work. EDIT: Ignore what I said before. I just saw the link you gave for the Intel display driver. I downloaded and installed it and rebooted but when I check device manager it shows the version I first saw after installing Windows 10. I think the driver does not get installed properly. Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Never mind the previous post. I did all the steps again but my FPS is still low. Any other ideas? Link to comment
0 MTA Anti-Cheat Team Dutchman101 Posted June 16, 2015 MTA Anti-Cheat Team Share Posted June 16, 2015 Someone please help. As it looks now i can only advise you downgrading your Windows 10 build to the one previously working fine with MTA, it's not unsupported without reason at the moment because it's still in development & unlike older editions they are making alot of changes in architecture/core so possibly that can deliver major problems like this here... before the final release MTA can't adapt to massive flaws some builds may include. Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Damn... Guess I'll have to wait. Anyway, everyone thank you for trying to help me. Link to comment
0 [TK]Joseph Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Windows 10 Pro Insider; Build 10159. MTASA is now lag free or "not lagging" anymore. If you want to upgrade to this current build just check in the "check updates" for windows insiders. Proof: https://curtcreation.net/curt/2015-07-02_16-58-42.jpg Link to comment
0 Noki Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I can confirm. Running right now, and no issues whatsoever. FPS is running smooth, and audio is not glitchy (like it was with 9926). Link to comment
0 Jay91 Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 Sorry for the very late reply. I can confirm upgrading to the latest build of Windows 10 fixes the problem. Link to comment
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I have very low FPS in MTA SA. GTA SA and SA:MP run at 80-105 FPS but in MTA I get only 5-7 FPS while playing a server.
MTADiag Log- http://pastebin.mtasa.com/513827830.
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