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  1. To take away some confusion, understand that the changes being announced here are mostly focussed on cutting out the 'community front' of AC team operations, so that we can optimize limited manpower and rebalance expectations for our users to accept there will be periods we can't make waves, if you were able to move yourself into our perspective on how people always want everything solved, fixed, sorted out immediately on their whim, and how persistent they are in that (and in most cases bring something misconceived/invalid, after which they can't even be convinced otherwise or that would take from our time disproportionally), you'd be straight out scared and quickly stressed out. OP was clarified by adding in this segment 1 day after the topic was made: We will continue to bring AC improvements and get rid of emerging cheats and cheaters, but at our own pace, without external pressure or too high community expectations, from now on everything is on a best-effort basis and the point is that there may be periods during which we can't make any waves due to manpower constricts. You can see that this topic intends to lower your expectations and respect the amount of free time we (as volunteers) are able to invest, and get off our backs for things being different compared to some years ago. We're also OK to restrict ban appeals and player reports so we can delegate all of the manpower that's left on our new strategy, breaking cheats (patching them) and just preventing them from working to begin with, instead of permanently banning cheat users and having to deal with them "regretting" in ban appeals. We are also OK to restrict reporting cheaters as our focus shifts to breaking the cheats, and to get the required information to break one, we have our own methods and channels so much that we don't need any sort of reports. Due to the state of anticheat and heuristics, we always have a good picture of abnormalities and what cheats are doing, so the main limiting factor is manpower to get to work with what we have & know. After all, cheating on MTA will not be left alone, and AC team will disrupt it and raise the border even more whenever manpower allows it to do so. Cheaters should realize that their fun may come to an end at any unexpected moment, and that if they're too used to being able to cheat, they will be very upset to have to adapt to playing normally for as long it takes the cheat devs to catch back up to us again.
  2. Hello, Effective immediately it's no longer possible to: - Report players to AC team - Appeal any global bans Do not attempt to report players to MTA staff team, or appeal any bans. It doesn't matter what you think or believe in, they will no longer be processed. A) If you need to report a player, please contact admins on the server they are playing on. Server admins should pay the amount of attention that staff in other multiplayer games (with hosted servers) typically pay, and owners should be mindful of script security and scripted anti-cheat solutions to fill in some cracks that started to be created over the past few years, and continue to do so as a result of lowered manpower within the MTA AC team. B) Appealing bans is no longer needed as permanent bans have been removed last month, and any of the handful of cases not covered aren't meant to ever be appealed, without exception. Temporary bans were never meant to be appealed, although some staff member's intepretation of that (while redirecting users) has varied - if you got a temporary ban, wait for it to expire and surely you got a feeling of what not to do/not to run next time while MTA is opened, to avoid getting banned again. AC team is actively monitoring the reliability & integrity of standard detections that may lead to temporary bans, that's one of the things its manpower still allows it to do, so you can see why we're confident to go this route - any leakage of appeals in places they don't belong/users contacting MTA about their bans anyways, our experience has learned is 99.9% users that know why they got banned but won't accept it and are persistent.. as before, all such inquiries won't lead anywhere, but especially now we said "No appeals anymore" there will be zero interaction and certain behaviors may also lead to removal from the respective platforms where inquiries are made in a persistent or disruptive fashion. Finally, regarding cheaters - the level of sophistication that our AC has reached due to years of playing a cat mouse game with cheaters, is a hugely raised border for cheats to be made and will continue to do so (as methods that were used in the past were patched as per the spoilered text in this topic, so they can't be re-used). However, with the loss of dedicated AC developers within AC team, comes that we can no longer keep up as before, this situation has existed for the past 2 years so as of this post nothing is abruptly changing, it's just the point of admitting we won't be tryharding as much as in the past to be known as totally cheater-free game, a reputation we held for long. If you look around in the gaming industry, you'll see that we held up pretty well in comparison, but the cheating industry (due to toxicity demand) has also hardened, and after 20 years we are low on manpower which is fully understandable. We will continue to bring AC improvements and get rid of emerging cheats and cheaters, but at our own pace, without external pressure or too high community expectations, from now on everything is on a best-effort basis and the point is that there may be periods during which we can't make any waves due to manpower constricts. You can see that this topic intends to lower your expectations and respect the amount of free time we (as volunteers) are able to invest, and get off our backs for things being different compared to some years ago. We're also OK to restrict ban appeals and player reports so we can delegate all of the manpower that's left on our new strategy, breaking cheats (patching them) and just preventing them from working to begin with, instead of permanently banning cheat users and having to deal with them "regretting" in ban appeals. We are also OK to restrict reporting cheaters as our focus shifts to breaking the cheats, and to get the required information to break one, we have our own methods and channels so much that we don't need any sort of reports. Due to the state of anticheat and heuristics, we always have a good picture of abnormalities and what cheats are doing, so the main limiting factor is manpower to get to work with what we have & know. Enjoy the game, and remember that player desires make the market for servers - so if you see too many cheaters, ask server owners to invest their time in training server admins to be on the lookout for cheaters and ban them, script protection/alert systems, and after all, have some peace of mind because cheating in MTA will always be a raised border and still won't be as common as in directly competing projects. // Note: using the bug bounty program for security bugs remains possible, end user security will always be among MTA team's top priorities. The program has been frozen for cheats, though, and documentation will soon reflect that.
  3. Thanks, and it's one of the reasons i have additional faith in those that we unban. Because they are the people that experienced how strong our systems are, and in how much trouble they have found themselves after getting banned. I know how many of them have spent weeks to months trying to bypass the ban, because they were sure that if they succeeded, they wouldn't repeat their mistakes as they dont want to go there again. Many of them like the cheat developers, also found how easily it was to get such a harsh ban for a complete failure of being able to write a cheat for MTA (due to the general state of AC), so its not even a good risk-reward ratio for them. The fear that we have embedded in many cheaters, cheat devs and badly behaved people throughout the years, pays off and now is a deterrent to those that were forgiven. I also hope that they will spread the word about what happens if someone does what they did in the past.
  4. Hello, All global bans have been removed, everyone is unbanned * Legend: "global ban" = Manual ban for bad activity or AntiCheat "Banned by MTA" MTA wishes everyone a happy new year. To show our good intentions and willingness to forgive those in which we previously lost faith, everyone that received a global ban in the past 15 years has been given a final chance to be a normal player, and redeem themselves. This is not a joke, we removed all bans (except for a handful of the worst cases, up to 20 users), and will only happen once in MTA's lifetime. Everyone that used paid hacks, or was a cheat developer, can play again. We are extra confident in this because we recently patched (detected, blocked) the major paid hacks on MTA, unbanning paid hack users in this scenario was our traditional approach which we however shifted away from. Everyone that did basic malicious activity against MTA, its users or a server, can play again. Of course, except for the absolute worst of cases, which is unlikely to include you. So for a bit of context, besides giving everyone a chance to redeem themselves (if they had previously insisted they realized their mistakes and wouldn't repeat.. but got rejected as we have different experiences with such users), we realized that the system used was prone to false positive bans that accumulate during periods of lowered AC Team manpower. Even when manpower went up, it was a huge leap to catch up with the growing so-called technical debt to fix up on false positives, leading to, as I must admit, a bunch of unfairly banned people with appeals that wouldn't be attended to. This is the compassionate move. - Those that know what they did to get banned, should know that this is their final chance, and that should you draw AC team's attention again you are done for. You are certainly one of those that fully realize the strength of our anti-ban evade measures to which point you can't do anything to evade bans, as when you get such a manual ban not even spoofers will work to evade.. so, don't make the same mistake again, don't put yourself in the same situation of being defeated, AC team will really come after you if you repeat. You can consider the ban amnesty as a peace offering, as long you are willing to be a normal user from now on. Not a toxic cheat developer, hacker, DDoS attacker or so on, whatever behavior got you banned. Redeem yourself, learn from your past mistakes, and make a fresh start. - Those that know they are innocent and were caught in the crossfire of their appeals not being handled in a timely manner or at all, we extend our deepest apologies to you, and reassure you that 99% of all measures (intended for other banned users) which could lead to such a false positive ban are now removed along with the Ban Amnesty. You are cleared and very much welcome back to play MTA: San Andreas. I am well aware how many dreams of past players were ruined by unfortunate mistakes. Disclaimer: Anyone that notices they are still banned after today, is one of the up to 20 people in the list of exceptions, and shouldn't bother to appeal. It has been double checked that only intended remaining bans still exist, there is no such thing as a 'mistake' to be reconsidered. Community bans (Discord/Forums) are also not included other than on a case by case basis such as through the use of our Discord Ban Appeals board, unless otherwise stated in the near future. At last, if you have any friends that are permanently banned, please inform them about the good news, but caution them to behave this time, because like I wrote at the top, this is an extremely rare event that won't occur in MTA's future, as it has never done so in the past 15 years.
  5. If you didn't realize we know who you are.. Appeal was already denied at https://forum.multitheftauto.com/topic/138852-i-would-like-to-revoke-my-unfair-ban-i-love-this-game-if-you-can-look-at-my-des/ and posting additional appeals with other forum accounts won't change a thing. You are banned for cheating, and its not something you'll evade just like that. @joaovictormenezessila
  6. You only got 2 bans.. 1 for using an abuse macro tool (don't be trying to play in unfair ways..) and the second one for trying to serial change in order to evade the first ban. Everything that happened is your own fault, stop this bs and be a normal player. It's that simple. Temporary bans cant be appealed
  7. Ignoring appeals is a legitimate strategy for those that won't accept our decision and are known to always post new appeals/use different accounts for that. This case is no different.. you know why you're banned, and we know you are YUS4. The outcome of your appeal at https://forum.multitheftauto.com/topic/136051-trainer-ban/ isn't going to change by trying to evade constantly and appeal with different forum accounts. Learn that no is no. @K4YGISIZ
  8. Not only did you use a paid hack for which each banned cheater gets a permanent ban without exception, you also made grand threats to the server owner (Avalin RPG, where you were cheating).. first claiming you made the hack (trying to appear more dangerous than you really are) and then threathening to do more harm, keep coming back, and sell the hack to his players. No, you won't be unbanned, let alone with that included. This ban cannot be appealed again @Mickthomi
  9. First off, you know. And if you have a match, you shouldn't have tried to cheat Don't be lying, you launched a known paid MTA hack (the biggest one until last week, when we finally patched it). You can call yourself extremely lucky to not be permabanned. This ban cannot be appealed, have a nice day
  10. Some people just aren't worth replying.. like, i read a topic, know they are lying and i just dont bother. I know they know why they are banned and why that's to be expected as final result In your case, all i can say is: greetings to Mateplays (tarcseh), of which you are the team member. You were involved in cheat development activities and won't be unbanned
  11. I just clarified what was observed from the server logs (your acts, that are bannable) and how it came to being clear you're lying in this appeal This line makes no sense, or there's a language barrier.. you have never been in the staff team of said server. You were a visiting player that ended up engaging in globally bannable conduct, and you're very unlucky that this happens to be a server where i can observe the events. The next part of your line, in the context of the first part, is just incoherent Like i said, i was able to review the logs surrounding the incident (in which you engaged in said bannable conduct) and nothing that implies any server staff over there, or 'quotes' that was the bannable conduct, were observed during that reviewing process. In short, i know you're lying, and in addition i happen to have control over the evidence authencity. The core is that you spoke words which are globally bannable, your own words (unlike your lying claims), and that the opposite of cherrypicking - reviewing your other chat messages, as I said in my first reply, only corrobates that you're likely just that way, rather than it being impulsive words that 'accidentally' shot out of your mouth. The rest of your text is just a spaghetti of non-arguments that are pointing fingers with all sorts of wild accusations towards the server admins which made me aware of this incident. I addressed them before, more specifically in my previous reply, and on top of that i can reiterate i cannot find any signs it's true, by reviewing the chat logs I referred to.. for all we know it's the typical pointing fingers back at server admins that get you banned for your own conduct (which is also the only thing that's evidenced and proven). No one here wishes to waste their time on your essays, please, just get out of the gaming world, thanks. I hope authorities will knock on your door soon, to see how you really stick together as a person, and prevent any harm. Locking this to prevent more essays with non-arguments from eating away at our time. Like i said, ban appeal denied, what unfolded here is clear enough, and there is nothing you can do to confuse & distract us from your specific bannable conduct. After all, this is our platform, you're not welcome here.
  12. "I was quoting the MTA admins in this situation" > Not true "Whatever I implied in my messages" > By the above not being true, you weren't implying it.. its something that came from you, as a result of being the type of person that i described. That you said it was "quoted" and implied, its just your way to try make it out of this, the most plausible 'explanation'/excuse you could think of to prevent this from being attributed to you in the fullest sense server admins (where the incident unfolded) "engaging in racism towards myself for being a latino" > Not the case.. usually when someone gets banned somewhere, they think of an easy way to point fingers back/blame the opposing party, I'm pretty sure that's the case here, yet this entire subject has nothing to do with your global ban And how i know this? I have personally audited the server logs, on the server where this occurred. In fact, i am its owner, so i have first hand control to ensure that what happened in my absence unfolded exactly as the server log says, as in: the server log file isn't manipulated, no one except for me can control it, any server admins that you say you quarreled with (something i wasn't able to confirm, though irrelevant for the acts that led to this global ban) have no access to modify the log file, hence I can deduce how it happened, which I did Nice try, but you cannot lie your way out of this one, and falsely accusing the server admins that caught you behaving as you did of all sorts of things won't help you case either. I am a witness to the integrity of the evidence. And for all i care about, we protect our users against you (so if you're gonna make plays on me like you did with those server admins, next.. it wont change a thing). Ban appeal denied
  13. Certain type of highly harmful weirdo's, such as likely paedophiles that make statements like these: .. In addition to other sort of behaviors that only corrobate the idea you're not a normal person (that goes beyond regular toxicity in a given chat) Need to be removed from multiplayer games where they can come into contact with, you know. We need to protect our userbase against depraved individuals, and by that, you're not welcome on MTA. We can't take a gamble on your intentions with this. To protect your privacy a bit, i wont attach the large amount of relevancy-unfiltered messages i called "other sort of behaviors that only corrobate the idea you're not a normal person" @zSpyke
  14. I didn't need to read your long story, to deduce that you are banned for cheat development (even if you dont know that we found out..) and that we don't want to unban cheat developers. Ban appeal denied. I know you are persistent: to avoid a forum ban, don't appeal again and don't contact MTA staff members.
  15. No, we don't tend to unban cheat developers.. your involvement with highly toxic & malicious "Lua injector" cheat developers in Hungarian scene, while doing this, also plays a role. Not to speak of your malicious activity in the past (related to backdooring and leaking RPG gamemodes) that MTA knows about, I mean, it's not required to keep you banned, but indicates that HU scene is better off without you anyways. Ban appeal denied, it can't be appealed again @Wardis
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