Guest Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 I don't know if the teams are fleshed out or whatever but here is something I've been doing on and off for the current MTA, which is a mod that lets you play as the gangs. I've stopped for now, knowing the potential with Blue but here is some info on the mod. - Ability to play as different gangs, like the Haitians, Cubans, Bikers, and the Vercetti gang. - Each gang will have a unique set of weapons that are representations of their character - Each gang will have new spawn points and their gang vehicles will be avaliable to you And the technical part below, I'm looking for a team to help with this project if Blue is released without this sort of stuff in it, it's nothing complicated coding wise but for me it's a bit much to handle but hopefully Blue will allow you to use other models rather than just the ones provided like in MTA now because right now the current process is that I'm replacing the models through the IMG but is alright but would be really tedious for a person who wants to play this. Here is some of the stuff that is more revealing... VERCETTI FAMILY Weapons: Pistol Uzi Shotgun Spawn points: In and around the Vercetti estate Vehicle spawn points: Two black Sentinel XSs parked outside the Vercetti estate alongside a black Limo COLOMBIANS Weapons: Chainsaw Pistol Ingram M4 Spawn points: The "Apartment 3C" block Vehicle spawn points: Two white Admirals parked around the "Apartment 3C" block alongside a black Washington CUBANS Weapons: Bat Tec9 Ruger Molotov Spawn points: Little Havana block the same one with the three basketball courts situated in the middle and where the gang vehicles are parked outside of Vehicle spawn points: Three Cuban Hermes parked around the Little Havana block located opposite the Laundromat in Little Havana HAITIANS Vehicles: Machete Pistol Tec9 M4 Spawn points: Little Haiti, the block where Poulet resides and the Haitian gang headquarters Vehicle spawn points: One Voodoo in the default position at Auntie Poulet's place One Voodoo parked out on the street for easy access to the road One black burrito parked in gang headquarters alongside another Voodoo Two green and yellow dirtbikes parked alongside the other two vehicles in gang HQ STREET PUNKS Weapons: Bat Pistol Ingram Ruger Spawn points: The north half of Prawn island Vehicle spawn points: One gang burrito in the default position by the mansion on Prawn Island Two other gang burritos parked outside on the street BIKERS Weapons: Pistol Tec9 Stubby Spawn points: In and around the Greasy Chopper in Downtown Vehicle spawn points: One angel by the Greasy Chopper Two angels parked on the street POLICE Weapons: Nightstick Pistol Mp5 Shotgun Spawn points: The three Police stations scattered around Vice City Vehicle spawn points: Police cars and Enforcers avaliable at the Police stations to which the Police spawn at As you can see this is way more structured than the teams in MTA now, and it should be alot more fun, and the sight of four mobsters driving down the road in their gang car and doing drive-bys on another gang should be awesome. Link to comment
vass69 Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 good idea for a gamemode, but the weapons should be changed Link to comment
Guest Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 lay some suggestions down then Link to comment
Guest Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 is it possible to for the mta team to have different weapons to the single player? Link to comment
orappa Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 is it possible to for the mta team to have different weapons to the single player? I doubt the team would, as they're trying to emulate single player, but a modder could to an extent. Link to comment
eAi Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 It'd be entirely possible to add custom weapons if you wish (and know how), by using an addon. eAi Link to comment
erorr404 Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 I don't know if the teams are fleshed out or whatever but here is something I've been doing on and off for the current MTA, which is a mod that lets you play as the gangs. I've stopped for now, knowing the potential with Blue but here is some info on the mod.- Ability to play as different gangs, like the Haitians, Cubans, Bikers, and the Vercetti gang. - Each gang will have a unique set of weapons that are representations of their character - Each gang will have new spawn points and their gang vehicles will be avaliable to you And the technical part below, I'm looking for a team to help with this project if Blue is released without this sort of stuff in it, it's nothing complicated coding wise but for me it's a bit much to handle but hopefully Blue will allow you to use other models rather than just the ones provided like in MTA now because right now the current process is that I'm replacing the models through the IMG but is alright but would be really tedious for a person who wants to play this. Here is some of the stuff that is more revealing... VERCETTI FAMILY Weapons: Pistol Uzi Shotgun Spawn points: In and around the Vercetti estate Vehicle spawn points: Two black Sentinel XSs parked outside the Vercetti estate alongside a black Limo COLOMBIANS Weapons: Chainsaw Pistol Ingram M4 Spawn points: The "Apartment 3C" block Vehicle spawn points: Two white Admirals parked around the "Apartment 3C" block alongside a black Washington CUBANS Weapons: Bat Tec9 Ruger Molotov Spawn points: Little Havana block the same one with the three basketball courts situated in the middle and where the gang vehicles are parked outside of Vehicle spawn points: Three Cuban Hermes parked around the Little Havana block located opposite the Laundromat in Little Havana HAITIANS Vehicles: Machete Pistol Tec9 M4 Spawn points: Little Haiti, the block where Poulet resides and the Haitian gang headquarters Vehicle spawn points: One Voodoo in the default position at Auntie Poulet's place One Voodoo parked out on the street for easy access to the road One black burrito parked in gang headquarters alongside another Voodoo Two green and yellow dirtbikes parked alongside the other two vehicles in gang HQ STREET PUNKS Weapons: Bat Pistol Ingram Ruger Spawn points: The north half of Prawn island Vehicle spawn points: One gang burrito in the default position by the mansion on Prawn Island Two other gang burritos parked outside on the street BIKERS Weapons: Pistol Tec9 Stubby Spawn points: In and around the Greasy Chopper in Downtown Vehicle spawn points: One angel by the Greasy Chopper Two angels parked on the street POLICE Weapons: Nightstick Pistol Mp5 Shotgun Spawn points: The three Police stations scattered around Vice City Vehicle spawn points: Police cars and Enforcers avaliable at the Police stations to which the Police spawn at As you can see this is way more structured than the teams in MTA now, and it should be alot more fun, and the sight of four mobsters driving down the road in their gang car and doing drive-bys on another gang should be awesome. that is exactly what i was thinking of posting about the other day. imo, the devs should do this with BLUE, and should have done this with previous versions (instead of making fake gangs with wierd characters - just doesnt make sense to me). this should be the character selection screen for all regular game modes like deathmatch and team deathmatch. it can also open up some new game modes where all of the different gangs are against eachother, and you work together with your gangmates to kill everyone else, or maybe defend your gangs territory (think turf wars), or reach other objectives depending on the game mode. here are some changes i would make: VERCETTI FAMILY these should have some sort of melee weapon because the other teams do, or maybe just brass knuckles (if that type of fighting is allowed ) COLOMBIANS why spawn in Apartment 3C? where is their gang territory in single player? CUBANS this is good, everything seems even so far. HAITIANS that looks good too. STREET PUNKS this is good. BIKERS good.. stubby makes up for their lack of weapons as for their vehicles, they should also have some kind of car, instead of just crappy bikes. or an alternative would be to put the PCJ in the glass shop window, so that they can use that. POLICE police armory looks good, but there should be two types of police - regular police with FBI, and military along with SWAT. there should actually be 4: SWAT, FBI, police, and military, but i think that would be pushing it. i think that the devs should be including this into BLUE, as it seems to obvious that it is a better idea to use real gangs... Link to comment
Slothman Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 the cubans spawn should definitly be the diner, as far as the columbians go, IMO the most appropriate place is the docks where it seems all the drug deals go down with helicopters. you forgot to mention the smaller gangs in sp like Leo the chef and his boys, love fist, you cant forget the mafia boys or that women gang that you steal the money plates from. man, for such a small town, there are a lot of gangs. Link to comment
Guest Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 The apartment 3C is a SCARFACE reference, if you watch the movie, the Colombians stay in there and that's where I got the idea from, the docks would be a good idea too. Other gang I might include are... Forelli family (the Mafia at the end, they'd spawn at the Airport) Too many gangs = bad idea, imo. I'd only do the big players. I'd like to have the Bikers strictly have access to Angels, they're Bikers that's their thing. They can get a car though but they should start off with bikes. Btw, the Colombians are Diaz's gang, they spawn at Starfish until you wipe them out. Link to comment
Slothman Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 well, the vercetti gang and the columbians are the exact same gang, so theres no point in having both if thats who yer talking about ( i thought you were talking about diaz and his fat chainsawed friend) Link to comment
Guest Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 well Colombians should be in, they control the drug trade and they aren't really the same. Just spawn at the same place when Vercetti gang takes over. Link to comment
l2ebel Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 couldnt all this be done as a mod for BLUE Link to comment
erorr404 Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 couldnt all this be done as a mod for BLUE yes, thats what it is, a mod for BLUE , unless BLUE is released with this type of thing (which it hopefully is). Link to comment
Partyz Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Good dat there will be no M60 cuz it is bugged as hell! But I also hope so DEV's will improve shot's, especially stubby... And I'm happy dat DEV's are looking in Gang life of MTA, cuz it's n00bish and lamish a lot... but it is caused by dat they dunno bout MTA in technical and "BUGological" side... (but (next :])) At all DEV's do a lot as hell, cuz they cause GTA to Net's life. HOOAH! Link to comment
Bladexen Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I like ur idea's but u should do this When a gang takes over anothers gang spawn point that gang will now spawn at cherry poping.(or what ever it was called) and if two gangs have there base tookin over they will also spawn there so u would have to surivive then try too take ur base back and also there should be a base that is not tookin over wich could be like a house far away from all the spawn points wich no1 ownes so every one tries to get it. Link to comment
Warrior Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 One more type of character: SOLDIERS Rocket launcher m4 spas python grenades chainsaw mp5 Spawn place: Millitary Base Vehicles: Hunter, Rhino (tank), Barracks OL, Patriot. Do you like it?) Link to comment
Slothman Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 why not give them full armor, infinite ammo and 500 hp while your at it? Link to comment
Guest Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 I like ur idea's but u should do thisWhen a gang takes over anothers gang spawn point that gang will now spawn at cherry poping.(or what ever it was called) and if two gangs have there base tookin over they will also spawn there so u would have to surivive then try too take ur base back and also there should be a base that is not tookin over wich could be like a house far away from all the spawn points wich no1 ownes so every one tries to get it. Eazier said than dunn. I might give a gang, some RPGs, I dunno, they seem like a cool gang weapon. Anyway what's with Blue I don't think I'll do this if it's not released soon. Link to comment
Guest Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 Maybe instead of the gangs from VC, this mode could have gangs from GTA3, or even gangs from both game. --------------Liberty City gangs: -Columbian Cartel Weapons: chainsaw, pistol, tec9, ruger Spawn: Airport terminal C(this terminal near military base) Car: sanchez bike, Cartel Cruiser from (from gta3) or suitable car from Vice City (like BF Injection) -Diablos Weapons: baseball bat, python, uzi, molotov's coctails Spawn: North Downtown Car: Diablos Stallion (from gta3) or suitable car from Vice City -Hoods Weapons: baseball bat, colt45, uzi, molotow's coctails Spawn: North Point Car: PCJ600, some nicely skinned vans -Leone Family Weapons: colt45 Spawn: there is a big building with a pool behind it located near actual secret service spawn point Car: Limousines, Mafia Sentinels (from gta3) or suitable car from Vice City (sentinel XS) -Triad Weaps: baseball bat, colt45, mac10, molotow's coctails Spawn: square in front of 8-balls bomb shop in docks Car: Triad Fish Van(from gta3) or suitable car from Vice City -Yakuza Weaps: katana, colt45, tec9 Spawn: Hyman Condo Car: Yakuza Stinger (from gta3) or suitable car from Vice City -Yardies Weapons: machete, python, ruger Spawn: Ocean View Street or maybe a pool behind a building at north end of this street Car: Yardie Lobo (from gta3) or suitable car from Vice City -----------Vice City Gangs: -Biker Gang Weapons: knife, python, stubby shotgun Spawn: South Downtown Car: Angel, Bobcat (?) and maybe a FlatBed -Cubans Weapons: Chainsaw, colt45, mac10, ruger Spawn: try to guess Car: Cuban Hermes -Haitans Weapons: Machete, python, ruger, molotov's coctails Spawn: Little Haiti Car: Voodoo -Street Wannabes Weapons: Knuckles, Baseball Bat, colt45, mac10 Spawn: Prawn Island Car: Gang Buritto, Faggio -Vercetti's Gang Weapons: chainsaw, python, m4, molotov's cockroachs Spawn: Vercetti's Estate but i am not sure about it (vercettis estete is more suitable for Leone Family) Car: Sabre, Sabre Turbo, Stinger, Limousine -----------Miscilianeous gangs: -Golf Players Weaps: golf bat (sorry i dont know what is the name of it in english language) Spawn: Leaf Links Club Car: Caddy -VCPD Weaps: armor, nightstick, colt45, shotgun Spawn: Every police Station Car: police car -FBI Weaps: nightstick, colt45, mp5 Spawn: Police Station in Downtown Car: FBI rancher, FBI washington -SWAT Weaps: armor, nightstick, colt45, m4, grenades Spawn:Police Station in Downtown and this south from Malibu club Car: Police Enforcers, Police Maverick -Maybe Russian Mafia? You can make "Mad Priests Gang" Spawn in church somewhere south from Pole Position Club . In the name of of God of course. (Joke) You can put cars and skins of the GTA3 gangs to VC. Remember everything can happen in computer game you can even make Alien Gang, green skined guys armed with laser pistols... but i think it would be too much for a normal player Hmm, it is a collosal amount of gangs , but you can still make even only most favourited gangs from both games... lets say three from VC, three fram GTA3, Police, FBI (it is example only) edit: one another thing: Players could see on map other players ONLY if they are members of same gang (i know that this is possible), and make somethink with Nicknames 'coz player can see a nickname of enemy even if he is behind a wall. If it would be impossible game could get a very nice sneaky fight (hide and seek with weapons , i am playing MTA often with friends with HUD, MAP, and Nicknames turned off (only as secret service i nthis "mode" if we can call it that), it is a great fun. Link to comment
Partyz Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 No more spaz!! it's n00bish... sam as minigun... but sniper rifles shud b nice...if they will b... Link to comment
Scorp Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 No more spaz!! it's n00bish... sam as minigun... but sniper rifles shud b nice...if they will b... No worries, it should all be configureable in MTA:Blue Link to comment
VCES>Burnz Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 One more type of character: SOLDIERS Rocket launcher m4 spas python grenades chainsaw mp5 Spawn place: Millitary Base Vehicles: Hunter, Rhino (tank), Barracks OL, Patriot. Do you like it?) i dont think the british army will issue me a chainsaw when i join? Link to comment
Partyz Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 No more spaz!! it's n00bish... sam as minigun... but sniper rifles shud b nice...if they will b... No worries, it should all be configureable in MTA:Blue so it means dat Admin can even configure when da weapons will b on map, same as cars etc? lol, I heard bout it in GTAT in my interview wiv DracoBlue, it sounded very optimistic but as we can c... yep, nuthin 2 add... hope u will do dis well Dev guys...mayb I just quit da Scene but I want MTA to b very good and playable mod, HOOAH! Link to comment
Guest Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 The gangs should be: Maffia: Vercetti + columbian cartel The Hood: Haitan + cubans Hooligans: Punks + Bikers Police: Police + security guys Government: FBI + Swat Army: army You should be able to choose different skins per gang. maffia: - tommy vercetti (leader) - diaz (sidekick of leader) - maffia soldier - comlumbian soldier spawn = mansion, airport The Hood: - auntie poulet (haitan) (leader) - umberto robina(sidekick of leader) - cuban gang member - haitan gang member spawn = hatian hide out, cuban cafe Hooligans: - Big mitch baker (the guy from the biker club [cant remember his name] ) (leader) - punk - biker member spawn = biker club, the malibu Police: - Leader of police - police officer - security guy spawn = various police stations Government: - Ken Rosenburg (???) ( is leader) - swat member - fbi member spawn = star fish island ( some villa not the movie studios ), Ken rosenburg's office Army: - Phil cassidy (leader) - army soldiers spawn = army base, harbor Note: Only ONE person per gang can be leader. And TWO can be sidekick of leader. It would be cool if you could choose where to spawn. Link to comment
j0keR Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 COLOMBIANSWeapons: Chainsaw Pistol Ingram M4 Spawn points: The "Apartment 3C" block Vehicle spawn points: Two white Admirals parked around the "Apartment 3C" block alongside a black Washington Sergio should love that. =) Link to comment
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