Boss Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Hey,it's been a while since my last post. I had an idea,probably only possible with the new core.I know syncronizing pedestrians and traffic would be almost impossible(Bandwithd,etc.),but would it be possible to syncronize a small number of actors with a certain behaviour for everyone in the game? Take an example of the gta3 mission 'Bomb da base',where you have to shoot the men in that ferry and protect 8ball aswell @ the docks;would it be possible to syncronize the actors so that the mission could be done in group?And then when the ending cutsene was to be played(In this case,the ferry blowing up),it would start it for everyone at the same time,so that people would get the reward(If possible)/ability to move at the same time? Another example could be in VC,in Cortez's last mission(The one where he sets sail),the players taking comand of the sailors,syncronizing the atackers(Not human btw)in the boats(I know boats aren't working,it's just an example)and in the helicopters. And the gamemode could be called 'Mission',where the admin would choose which mission to play,thus only spawning the necessary vehicles and pickups related to the mission and spawning the players in correct positions for the mission to start,withouth loading some parked cars,etc to avoid the possible breaking of the engine's limits(Although the ability to start the mission while playing in the whole city as it is at the moment would be nice too). I'm sure this feature would be very popular in the future I hope this is considered,keep up the good work team! Link to comment
eAi Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 We have many exciting features planned for the new core. More information will come in the future. One thing we can promise is that you're going to love it eAi Link to comment
Luigi Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 One thing we can promise is that you're going to love it Sounds good! Link to comment
orappa Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 And the gamemode could be called 'Mission',where the admin would choose which mission to play,thus only spawning the necessary vehicles and pickups related to the mission and spawning the players in correct positions for the mission to start,withouth loading some parked cars,etc to avoid the possible breaking of the engine's limits(Although the ability to start the mission while playing in the whole city as it is at the moment would be nice too). That's not a bad idea, but would it just loop the same mission over and over again? Link to comment
Posty Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 We have many exciting features planned for the new core. More information will come in the future. One thing we can promise is that you're going to love it eAi Heh, sounds great. Can't wait to see all the new features in the new core. /me cant wait Link to comment
PhatMan Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 We have many exciting features planned for the new core. More information will come in the future. One thing we can promise is that you're going to love it eAi That keeps my patience steady, assuring myself it will worth the wait... Link to comment
Trust Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 hmm, I think I will eat my keyboard if I have to wait too long j/k, I really hope you can manage to make the new core as exciting as you say it will be. about boss' idea: I like it, I really do, but there will be problems with people being ignorant and just killing whoever they want to and not listening to the instructions of the missions... But I hope it can be done in MTA, keep up the good job... Link to comment
Boss Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 Sounds great eAi,can't wait for it! Trust:That's what admins are for..I forgot to say,only the admin would be able to start the mission,or if possible,making the players immune to each other. JonChappel:It would be cool if it had a vote system,so that after the mission is finished,people go back to 'roaming' the city,and then they could vote for which mission to start,or simply do the classic rampages that are already present in mta. Link to comment
+FKU+VVolven Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I think it'd be great if Boss' idea were to be implemented in future, sounds like the free mode server on RE: Outbreak. Dunno about other people, but the most fun I have playing MTA is when there's teamwork involved. Link to comment
Trust Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Trust:That's what admins are for..I forgot to say,only the admin would be able to start the mission,or if possible,making the players immune to each other. idd, that is a nice idea, didn't think of that. But then everyone on the server has to play it. But hey, it's the same as king of the hill i.e. , if someone doesn't want to play it, just leave... It sounds very good, /me keeps his fingers crossed Link to comment
Garuzzo Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 including bots with a certain amount of ai would be cool but as with other things difficult i guess.. Link to comment
orappa Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 including bots with a certain amount of ai would be cool but as with other things difficult i guess.. Not to mention laggy. Link to comment
StAnToN Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 it will be EXTREMELY laggy if u put ai in plus the city would be rather packed.... Link to comment
orappa Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 it will be EXTREMELY laggy if u put ai in plus the city would be rather packed.... If you put in AI players, wouldn't that mean that there'd be less space in the scm for normal players? (as you no doubt guessed, I don't know much about GTA modding) Link to comment
StAnToN Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 yes and also you will be loading up ai from ALL OVER the map LOL it would lag with 1 person never mind 2 ppl.... Link to comment
Trust Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 hmm, the lagging all over the map can be fixed, just make the .scm that it only loads ai within a certain amount of distance, like gta does now, you don't think that gta loads all the players and cars on the entire city do you? but yes, even then it would be laggy, true... Link to comment
orappa Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 hmm, the lagging all over the map can be fixed, just make the .scm that it only loads ai within a certain amount of distance, like gta does now, you don't think that gta loads all the players and cars on the entire city do you?but yes, even then it would be laggy, true... The problem with that is that in SP, the player can only be in one place at a time, but in MP, players could be dotted about all over the map, so this probably wouldn't make much difference in terms of combating lag. Link to comment
Si|ent Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 There is also the factor of converging 'bubbles' with this system, if you allow say 4 or 5 peds per player then that sounds fine, not much more data needign to be sent, but as a player nears another, then each players 5 peds will need to be syncd for each, multiply that by 20 players or more and you get a massive drain bandwidth wise, or problems deciding which to remove if you choose to just 'cull' the additional as people converge. Theres also the fact that peds just get in the way! even with the lack of name tags they are distracting and it can be difficult to pinpoint your enemy at a medium distance (we tried unsyncd peds in one test, just to see what it looked and felt like). Personally i think the most likely scenario for a multiplayer ped and traffic filled city would be a two player co-operative mod, but this would be an entirely different project to MTA. One that I'm amazed nobody has had a go at Link to comment
michael196 Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 mybe some one will do it i think that all u need to do is to copy the MTA scm and put it into the SP mode and ull get multiplayer SP sry if it sounds N00B i don't know how to code scm BTW: wanna see something crazy!!! have a look at this!!!! http://members.lycos.co.uk/clanmi/mta_got_crazy.WMV i really really don't know what heppend it just heppend i stared playing MTA and i didn't got the Character selection screen it started like normal SP game but with all MTA features and btw it dissconnected me from the server after a while and said suspected trainer usage but i have no cracked client it just heppend don't know how Just watch it and ull get it! lol waiting for MTA Team to tell me WTF heppend here!!! Link to comment
Si|ent Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 i think that all u need to do is to copy the MTA scm and put it into the SP mode and ull get multiplayer SP No, that most definately wouldnt work. Link to comment
+FKU+VVolven Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Strikes me as odd that all the peds are properly named, and some (one anyway) of them have clan tags. Link to comment
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