finn_bryant Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 (edited) My old thrread about this died so i'll ask again, My cheap logitech laser mouse doesn't work in MTA, it stopped working in GTA a few months ago after i reformatted but i was able to fix it by putting GTA in compatability mode but then MTA doesn't work so i need another way of fixing it. Alt-Tab does not work!!! any other way to make my mouse work? in game it does nothing at all. in the menus for mta it works fine though. In gta (during a game) it does nothing at all and in the menus it moves but doesn't click on anything (alt-tabbing works for gta menus but not during the game). how do i make my mouse work in MTA??? Its really annoying for tanks etc. but when deathmatch comes out it will be even worse!!! Edited March 11, 2006 by Guest
So'lide Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 What do you exactly mean? Do you have just a crappy mouse? Don't you like the idea of MTA disabling alt-tabbing? You can't see your mouse after alt-tabbing (press ESC few times to solve that)?
finn_bryant Posted March 10, 2006 Author Posted March 10, 2006 my mouse is quite good, its a basic 3 button with scroll from logitech. what i mean is that my mouse doesn't work in game, at all! the menu works but making the veiw turn or aiming the tanks turrets does absuloutly nothing (even after alt-tabbing or pressing escape). i can solve this issue in normal gta by changing compatibility to 98/me, however mta does not work in compatability mode so i have to find another fix. i never had this problem before i reformatted my pc, it appered afterwards. I have tried reinstalling gta but it still doesn't work. i have tried multiple logitech drivers, i am currently useing 9.79.0.0 i hope that makes the problem easier to understand.
erorr404 Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 Looks like you'll have to get a better mouse. MTA disabled alt-tab in the game on purpose, maybe they'll allow it in DM though. edit: just saw your second post. Do you have any other mice you can plug in to see if it still happens?
finn_bryant Posted March 10, 2006 Author Posted March 10, 2006 good point, ill try to find my old rollerball. oh and BTW i just tried my mouse in a ps2 port instead of the usb and it still didn't work EDIT: my rollerball didn't work either!
So'lide Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 Then I guess your drivers are broken.. OR: Open single player SA. Go to controller options and check wich controller configurator you have. If you have "Joypad" on, select "Mouse + Keyboard".
finn_bryant Posted March 10, 2006 Author Posted March 10, 2006 I have now tried multiple drivers, multiple mice and have checked ingame settings and they are correct (including keyboard and mouse). you can see i have been trying to fix this for a while.
><CHAIN>< Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 Hi Finn, I remember your original post http://forum.mtavc.com/viewtopic.php?t=15662 Seeing as this is quite a difficult issue to resolve, can we check/try a couple of things? 1) Start>Run>dxdiag and go to the Input tab. Any problems listed? 2) a) Start Windows in Safe Mode b) Go to Device Manager and remove ALL mice (whether or not more than one shows) c) Unplug the mouse and use keyboard to restart your PC d) After Windows has loaded to desktop, plug in your mouse Any difference? Couple of other things to ask of you so we get more of the picture... - Apart from having to run GTA single player in compatibility mode, is there any other wierd behaviour with your mouse in other apps or Windows generally? - When you reformatted/re-installed, did you do a fresh install of GTASA and MTASA? - I know it's a basic mouse, but are you using any special utilties for it or changed any default settings in Control Panel>Mouse? Cheers
finn_bryant Posted March 10, 2006 Author Posted March 10, 2006 1. it found no problems 2. tried, it had no effect - my LMB is a bit flaky, but i don't think that means much... anyway, it didn't work with my rollerball either so that cant be the problem. - i did a fresh install of gta - im not using any special utilities. just tried reinstalling GTA again, didn't work. looks like ill have to get another mouse... im too poor. EDIT: The fact that this topic has caused the 'MTA:SA Client problems' forum to reach page 2 on google when searching for 'gta mouse problems' makes me think its not that common, although it definatly happens because i found a fix for it before (the changing compatibility to 98/me thing).
Leviathan Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 do cheap lasermouses from logitech exist??? (proud owner of a MX1000 myself) so you've allready tried drivers. allso configured the game tab? allready checked your mouse settings in the controll panel? and make sure your videocard hardware accelleration is at max (yes even that makes sence) VGA accell can be found under Display Properties-->Settings-->Advanced-->Troubleshoot.
><CHAIN>< Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 looks like ill have to get another mouse Well it's worth a try... And maybe this also... - whilst in game when the symptoms show, unplug your mouse. Then plug it in again - In your BIOS, look for a setting that controls USB or USB Mouse; it should have choice of BIOS or OS. Change to other one. (Mine's Award Bios USB Mouse Support via: BIOS or OS) Page 2 on Google result only makes me more determined to understand this one Did the forum that you found the fix for mention anything that could lead to the cause? They must have had some idea in order to suggest compatibility mode for this particular issue...
finn_bryant Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 ive yet to try the two ideas but the forum i found it on no-one had any idea, then one guy said he found the fix on another forum, he didn't say where and i cant remember where i found it, i think it might have been the official gta forum. ill edit once ive tried the ideas. EDIT: tried disconnecting and reconnecting the mouse in-game, it didn't work. I don't use my bios much so i didn't really understand which option i should pick, there was only one submenu that seemed probable, this was 'Intergrated devices (Legacyselect options)' which i opened, there were 3 options in there that had something to do with the mouse or usb ports, which is it? mouse port: (on/off) default is on USB emulation: (on/no boot/off) default is on USB contoller: (on/off) default is on there were 2 options about the ps/2 being on and which serial port to use.
Brophy Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 sometimes my mouse wouldnt work ingame, i could fix it by pressing escape (in mta i press alt+tab a few times to fix it)
finn_bryant Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 thanks, but it doesn't work for me, it seems that some people get a very similar problem to me but ive only found 2 others on the internet who have had the same bug as me and they were 9 months ago. BTW is it possible that it used to work because i had GTA3 and VC installed before SA but this time i haven't installed them? could that cause it?
Si|ent Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 I don't see how. SA is standalone not an expansion of any kind and it uses the mouse quite differently to the previous episodes (free view, water/cannon aim, even mouse steering) The people you found with the same issue previously, did they also have logitech mice?
Catzilla Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 I have an idea.... Reinstall windows. That is don't reinstall it OVER the old installation - COMPLETELY remove the old install and then reinstall. For that, you might find a windows 98 boot floppy useful (keep in mind that if you have NTFS, you'll have to find ntfs drivers for dos, or get them from me).
Leviathan Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 there's no need for a win98 bood floppy if you can allso format your pc with the windows cd.
finn_bryant Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 Ive only just reformatted my pc!!! You really think ill have to do it again? and i cant help feeling that if it didn't work this time, its not going to work next time. i think it might be something that dell installed on my pc when i first got it and just haven't worked out what it might be, any ideas? EDIT: OMG!!!!! I turned off advnced text services in compatability and it suddenly worked!!!!! you dont need advanced text services for mta do you?
Leviathan Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 hmm just formatted... sure you got ALL drivers installed? go to your system properties (win key+pause) and check under hardware-->device manager if everything is correctly installed.
finn_bryant Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 look at my edit above. After testing i found that the mouse works in MTA aswell, this problem has been officialy fixed, just incase anyone else has this problem... right click on your shortcut to GTA and select properties, then chose the tab 'compatability' and check the box next to 'turn off advanced text services'. oh, ive found a new bug...... ahh forget it 1
Catzilla Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Erm. I use the windows 98 floppy NOT to format my HD but to ERASE windows, program files, recycled, system restore. Formatting isn't that good.
><CHAIN>< Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) just incase anyone else has this problem... right click on your shortcut to GTA and select properties, then chose the tab 'compatability' and check the box next to 'turn off advanced text services'. Nice one Finn, but this isn't enabled by default. If you had a CLEAN install then surely this problem wouldn't have occured, right? EDIT: Formatting isn't that good It's not the best way to make a COMPLETELY clean install, no. If you were needing that you would use FDISK from Win98 CD/floppy to remove the partition THEN reboot, use FDISK /MBR to clear the Master Boot Record. Then install OS with the install CD from boot, which will create a new partition. But this is all besides the point really Edited March 11, 2006 by Guest
finn_bryant Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 it is enabled for me, im one of those lucky people who has a voice that windows understands, so i use voice recognition in word, thus advanced text services is on for me. the install was clean a few weeks ago.... oh and catzilla, reformatting is the best reinstall you can do, the only thing not erased is the bios.
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