Leviathan Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 If you didn't know leviathan, the driver can shoot, but only in one angle. When having three other guys, you shoot in any angle.yeah he can, but I was mentioning the 1st person view
[PtM]HShadow Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 I would NOT recommend free aiming for Bike drivers, as this can lead to an eventual effect of the Bike handling like an Electric Bucking Bronco. I know, i tried it on the PC.
DarkDragon98756 Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 But then it would be even since you have four guys for example and they can just shoot the guy down easily, while that one person has a chance of taking all of you down. makes no sense. elaborate. Both the person walking and a car of 4 people have a chance of killing each other. Ex: The person walking has an M4, and there are 4 people in a car about to do a drive by. That one person has the chance to shoot it until it explodes, while the group of four have the chance t kill him in a few shots. it takes more then a few shots of a uzi with a SLOW firing rate and poor aiming (i know, i play two player mode) opposed to a person with a powerful accurate M4 to take down a car In two player mode, your aiming with a controller. You're camera must ALSO still be viewing foward so the car can drive. It won't be like that in MTA. As for your theory of an m4 totally owning a car, remember they still cant bail out if (which I doubt will happen) the guy manages to catch it on fire. In reality the guys in the car have 8 lives, and the guy on foor has one.
[PtM]HShadow Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 But cars have what is the equal of a headshot kind of weakness, the Gas Tank... So, if person on foot hits gas tank, they auto pwn all the ppl in the car. So cars are kind of balanced to on foot, they can run you over, You can score a headshot on the driver. They can crush you, you can blast them from miles off with a rocket launcher. They can be on fire, then left to blow you up while your stuck underneath it, You can sniper the gas tank from off a building.
Leviathan Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 yeah, and like in the "old" mta versions cars often didn't kill you... just bump you away
Guest Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 They shouldn't be able to free aim. It keeps it balanced. Like in Halo. You can't shoot while you drive the warthog. If you could I don't think it'd be as fun.
Subwoofer Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 I agree, with blue, drive-by's should be possible But you guys are only talking about cars... Wouldn't it be great if someone was flying a heli and a passenger can shoot with a "machine gun", you know like in the mission where you have to should down the little model planes Now that would be crazy Greetz
Deathspike Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 Driver cannot shoot (only standard driveby's), passengers can lean out of windows and blast the hell out of things. My opinion, most balanced for teamplay and soloplay. Like this you stand stronger with teammates, otherwise, you do not.
njr1489 Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 I agree, with blue, drive-by's should be possible But you guys are only talking about cars... Wouldn't it be great if someone was flying a heli and a passenger can shoot with a "machine gun", you know like in the mission where you have to should down the little model planes Now that would be crazy Greetz Your talking about the RC baron in the supply lines mission. I think you need to go to a blip in order to activate it now. If the gun is synced, then yeah its possible, but the othere enemy has an advantage over you when he could just come up right behind you and kill you, since your flying the RC and won't know what is happening behind you.
Subwoofer Posted June 26, 2005 Posted June 26, 2005 Maybe, maybe... i don't really understand in fact, i was talking about shooting with a big machine gun out of a heli while you're partner is flying, don't see how anybody can come from behind you, while in the air shooting But if it's possible to shoot out of cars it should be possible to shoot out of heli's to Euhm something for the Mta developers => This is a cheat where you can be driver and perform a drive-by... OUIQDMW It's shows very good how the "passengers" should behave when they are performing a drive-by. I guess if 3 passengers are hanging out of the car and each of them are behaving in a different way in the drive by and all of this is sync, then this will be amazing btw if you don't know the cheat, you really have to try it out, only thing that sucks is using it while driving a truck, you will see... Greetz
Leviathan Posted June 26, 2005 Posted June 26, 2005 The mta team keeps saying the synchronisation will be good becouse they build up the core engine from the beginning or something..
njr1489 Posted June 26, 2005 Posted June 26, 2005 Maybe, maybe... i don't really understand in fact, i was talking about shooting with a big machine gun out of a heli while you're partner is flying, don't see how anybody can come from behind you, while in the air shooting But if it's possible to shoot out of cars it should be possible to shoot out of heli's to Euhm something for the Mta developers => This is a cheat where you can be driver and perform a drive-by... OUIQDMW It's shows very good how the "passengers" should behave when they are performing a drive-by. I guess if 3 passengers are hanging out of the car and each of them are behaving in a different way in the drive by and all of this is sync, then this will be amazing btw if you don't know the cheat, you really have to try it out, only thing that sucks is using it while driving a truck, you will see... Greetz Oh wait I mistook it for zero's other mission where you fly the model plane. The weapon your talking about is the minigun. I say no because it would be too much. A minigun is very powerful and in a flying heli, you would almost be unstoppable since you could blast anyhting that moves in a second.
orappa Posted June 26, 2005 Posted June 26, 2005 The mta team keeps saying the synchronisation will be good becouse they build up the core engine from the beginning or something.. They built the last one up from the beginning... It's because they use different methods of interfacing with the game, I believe.
Subwoofer Posted June 26, 2005 Posted June 26, 2005 Maybe, maybe... i don't really understand in fact, i was talking about shooting with a big machine gun out of a heli while you're partner is flying, don't see how anybody can come from behind you, while in the air shooting But if it's possible to shoot out of cars it should be possible to shoot out of heli's to Euhm something for the Mta developers => This is a cheat where you can be driver and perform a drive-by... OUIQDMW It's shows very good how the "passengers" should behave when they are performing a drive-by. I guess if 3 passengers are hanging out of the car and each of them are behaving in a different way in the drive by and all of this is sync, then this will be amazing btw if you don't know the cheat, you really have to try it out, only thing that sucks is using it while driving a truck, you will see... Greetz Oh wait I mistook it for zero's other mission where you fly the model plane. The weapon your talking about is the minigun. I say no because it would be too much. A minigun is very powerful and in a flying heli, you would almost be unstoppable since you could blast anyhting that moves in a second. héhé, you're right, but in a heli you're weak as well, one rocket and down it goes i do hope rockets and shit will be easy to find and lots of them greetz
Leviathan Posted June 26, 2005 Posted June 26, 2005 The police maverick has some kind of rocket distraction method The searchlight. Shine the light in the face of the rocket guy and aiming @ you would be a lot harder, unless he has the homed RL...
Jigga Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 as i c it, the free aim should be allowed only for passengers coz as i remember mp5 is a smg and can be used to perform drive-by's. So we have Admiral with 3 mp5 guys (4 including the driver) and one guy with m4. As i remember someone stated that kills while being in car will be synced/done in Blue. So the guy with m4 can kill the driver/shooters or just send the car to hell by shooting the gas cover. Guys in car can drive-by or carkill him. Sounds fair. And hell if a guy got rocket launcher it's obvious he is gonna own everybody, nothing to worry about. Balancing weapons doesnt mean that guy with colt must be able to kill a guy with LAW, aight?
Guest Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 wouldnt it be cool, if you have a gang in a rpg server, you take like three same cars, everyone is in gang colours and they go into a gang war, like four people would come out o a car and start shooting, or you do a drive-by with 3 people shooting and one can concentrate fully on driving. as for the 1st person view, i think if youre in the car, you se the same view as the driver+you can move with the mouse to check stuff out, but if youre making a drive-by, the view remains, and the system is like on foot, you can move your mouse to watch around, and if you press rmb, the manual aiming thing comes infront of you and just shoot, or if you dont want the manual aim, you can shoot without it too.
Jigga Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 u dont need rpg server 2 do this, actually u dont even need friends to do it, u just join, pickup random guys and own the rest of the server
Deathspike Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 wouldnt it be cool, if you have a gang in a rpg server, you take like three same cars, everyone is in gang colours and they go into a gang war, like four people would come out o a car and start shooting, or you do a drive-by with 3 people shooting and one can concentrate fully on driving. as for the 1st person view, i think if youre in the car, you se the same view as the driver+you can move with the mouse to check stuff out, but if youre making a drive-by, the view remains, and the system is like on foot, you can move your mouse to watch around, and if you press rmb, the manual aiming thing comes infront of you and just shoot, or if you dont want the manual aim, you can shoot without it too. The driver shudnt be able to aim freely, only if thats ur specialization. Imo the best kind of rpg system, but thats ur own decission.
ArmedAndDangerous Posted June 30, 2005 Posted June 30, 2005 Hell, I beleive free aiming shouldn't be allowed for drivers, as it makes it less fun. My idea, is to have it so that only passangers have free aiming, for drive-bys, and to have it so that passangers can select weapons 'cept melee ones) while in the car and also use the left and right buttons to poke their head out of the car, like the drive-bys in solo.
Subwoofer Posted July 1, 2005 Posted July 1, 2005 Btw, i was thinking, if the driver would be able to perform a drive by, carkillers would be invincible
Leviathan Posted July 1, 2005 Posted July 1, 2005 Btw, i was thinking, if the driver would be able to perform a drive by, carkillers would be invincible Don't forget the more heavy weaponry will be in MTA:SA...and hanging out of the window will be automatically, like in the last mission. if you aim @ your side you'll sit in the car, and if you aim to the other side you'll hang out of it to reach that half. But what kind of weapons should be allowed to drive by with. only pistol classes and submachine classes? You'll never see someone drive by with a shotgun or sniper or minigun in sp (yeah ok minigun in heli, but that's no car and it is positioned on the heli)
njr1489 Posted July 1, 2005 Posted July 1, 2005 Just leave it as the uzis for drive bys. You don't want to see people using rocket launchers for drive bys lol.
ArmedAndDangerous Posted July 1, 2005 Posted July 1, 2005 SMG, pistold and Assault rifles are seen been shot out of the window in missions, so they should be allowed for passangers, just make others unaccessible.
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