Defend Locations

[Guest]

ok this is getting a little old, regarding helikills and defend locations

most people have a bad habbit of saying "no helikills allowed" then theyl camp people on roofs where nothing but helis can reach them and call that a tactic

lets examine whats wrong here

1. anyones gonna shoot down ur heli as u try and get close, it just doesnt work that way

2. u cant just do a bail out landing onto there roof. i tried that three times now and got raped each time as i was getting up

3. theyre just going to sit up there until u leave to go get a way up there, then they might fly down and get health or theyl just keep camping and get a way up there as has happened during many matches. as in u will be on the ground, they will be up there with nothing but a pistol left and theyl insist on camping up there for 15 minutes plus, iv seen it to many times and it ruins matches

so my suggestion would be the following

from now on if the place where you are requires a heli to reach it then its not allowed unless helikills are allowed.

if theyre not allowed then dont try and post up where u know only helis could get u

this is getting really old and iv seen it happen during way to many matches. people just sit up there because they know u cant touch them. if the place where u are has stairs then all fine and dandy u can reach them. if its just a flat place somewhere then wtf is the point

so lets make rules to get this posting up bullshit to stop happening, then we can start having matches go alot smoother

[nick]

rofl

these rules apply to whom?

your imaginary friends?

each clan probably have a set rulesheet they allow/disallow certain perks.

why woudl you want to make every clan do the same thing?

why would you even care so much, seeing how you don't even have any say in any gang matches.

gary gary, you're dreamin, kid.

[SM xenex]

Not trying to come as nick did but he is right in a part, every match rules should be decided between the gangs ( leaders) participating in it.

So if both leaders decide its ok to helikill it shoud be ok and no argument whatsover should come out of it.

The real problem that happends in all gangmatches and makes whining and flaming so common is the lack of understanding by both clans.I know its impossible to make a point on every single thing that might cause confusion and arguments it shoudl still be tried and you have to always learn from problems/ideas that came up in a previous match , so if helikilling is allowed

(I take this as an example) , all ( that you can think of) ways of it starting a argument should be discussed, so you might have to say helikilling is allowed but only the one you bring, so it isnt allowed to go get a new heli if the one you came with blows up, you are not allowed to helikill friendlies? it would be an automatic death for the helipilot , etcetc, things like that

The details of the match must be decided and agreed upon way before the match ,to prevent the possibilty of arguments before the match about what is allowed and what isnt, cause that will cause delays in the start of the match also, it should be that if you didnt mention somethign not being allowed ,Helikilling in this case and the opponents helikill you , you shoudnt be allowed to complain cause you didnt say before the match that it wasnt allowed.

Communication people.

[Guest]

lol nick thats ur attempt to flame me now, im not a clan leader is that it? i gave up my clan leader status, status isnt what makes u a leader hun go read leadership 101

get over urself kid, this is a general statement about them, if clans agree fine if they dont then i can work with that to.

im just getting opinions right now, cuz if you guys agree then perfect, if u dont then il work with that to. i just wanna get this little grey area outa the way now

p.s. whats the difference between having people camping roofs and defending the sea shack in the middle of the ocean, i see none

both ideas rely on the same lame concept

[DominionSpy]

from now on if the place where you are requires a heli to reach it then its not allowed unless helikills are allowed.

We have one spot that can only be reached by heli, however it is more than big enough to land a heli and many clans have successfully taken out the occupant after doing that.

I know you're not just talking about FMJ, but I'm sure we are one of those on your mental list.

[VCES>RonSeal]

Weve had to face many a clan on rooftops,reachable only by heli.

We used to have a failsafe method in 3.2 to deal with it,but with 4.1 its been prevented.

But we still find we can take a rooftop safely,it all depends on how you go about it.

In your example last night,you took a heli on your own.

Im unsure how you exited the heli,but going on your own wasnt the best idea,perhaps overconfident?

There really is no need to have Heli Kills,we practice on the exact scenario you suffered last night,and we can take rooftops without losing the heli,in the majority of cases.

Sometimes it all go's to ratshit,but thats the way it goes.

Perhaps you should of attacked the rooftop with some assistance,Trinity only had you to deal with,so she was able to concentrate solely on you.

Very Gung Ho,i always prefer to have more attackers than defenders.

The FKU tactic of having 4 defending and just you attacking was not bad,but it left you unable to deal with certain situations.

Anyone can heli kill,but taking rooftops is harder,something you need to think about i guess...

[Oli]

oh great another thread about heli kills. ill make this nice and clear for u:

I do not care about heli kills ether way, if they are in they are in, if not then not, I will deal with each situation if and when it arises instead of having a preset set of rules for every possible scenario

This is how i feel and hence how FMJ as a whole will deal with situations. Some members may have objections, but this will remain our stance until further notice.

note to self: stop looking at threads started by deathb