..:D&G:.. Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Hello guys, I have a Dell Inspiron 530 and I was thinking of upgrading it. My budget is £300 and I wanted to get a new motherboard (DG33M03), a new Power Supply (CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 ATX PSU), a Graphics Card (Nvidia-Geforce-GT-730-Graphics-Card-4-GB) and maybe a new CPU (Yorkfield Quad Core, Q9650, 3.0G, 12MB, 1333 FSB, as it's the best I can get for that motherboard) But the question is, is it really worth it? I am a gamer, playing games like Dying Light, (maybe GTA 5), Far Cry 4, Watch Dogs etc. I really need advice in this, as I don't want to waste my money, when I could of get a better PC. Thank you. Link to comment
ixjf Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Don't bother wasting your money on old components. You're not going to play any of these games at a decent frame rate with that. Get some more money (min. £500 budget) and build a whole new PC with newer components. Link to comment
MTA Team jhxp Posted February 17, 2015 MTA Team Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yeah, the problem here is that these are rather old parts already. The graphics card you've listed is hardly worth to spend any money on due to poor performance in gaming. Only the PSU might be worthy to consider for a simple gaming PC. Definitely try going for at least a 4th gen (Haswell-based) Intel Core i3 CPU (i5 preferred) and maybe an aftermarket gpu such as Radeon HD7850 or similar. That should save you a lot of performance-related headaches for a while. Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 The thing is that inspiron 530 has only 2 motherboards, and none of them support the i3 or i5 series. Also, Radeon HD7850 has only 2GB dedicated memory, and I want at least 3GB just to make sure I can run games on medium at least, with a decent FPS and maybe no lag. Link to comment
MTA Team jhxp Posted February 17, 2015 MTA Team Share Posted February 17, 2015 Just ditch that case and get a different one then. There are many cheap and good PC cases out there... like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811129181 As for graphics cards, the amount of the video memory will be the least of your problems, really. It's mostly the GPU itself and the memory bus width that matter the most, and the GT730 does not deliver in neither of them. See for yourself: http://www.pc-specs.com/gpu/comparison- ... on-hd-7850 http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.ph ... on-hd-7850 Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 I was thinking of changing the case, but found out that the inspiron parts will not fit in another case, I guess I have to save up and make a PC which the minor parts from the inspiron and I'll buy the major parts. But maybe someone else knows a better alternative? Link to comment
ixjf Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 What else is there in the case that you'll keep? You're basically building a whole new PC, only keeping the case. [quote name=..&G:..]The thing is that inspiron 530 has only 2 motherboards, and none of them support the i3 or i5 series. Also, Radeon HD7850 has only 2GB dedicated memory, and I want at least 3GB just to make sure I can run games on medium at least, with a decent FPS and maybe no lag. 2 motherboards? Where did you see that? The case is a midtower, you should be able to put in there any ATX-sized motherboard. Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Forget it, I'll just make my own PC from scratch Anyone know a cool and cheap case? Link to comment
ixjf Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 It's up to you. Choose whatever you like the most that fits in your budget. All you need to do is make sure that the motherboard you choose is compatible with your case, as in form factor. Any midtower should be compatible with the ATX form factor, which is the most common. Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 So, I decited to go with pcspecialist and customise a pc with them. The PC I made is about £800 and here is the quote if you want to have a look: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/779247/ Btw, which graphics card do you guys think is the best? Link to comment
ixjf Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Page not found. [quote name=..&G:..]Btw, which graphics card do you guys think is the best? For you? Depends on the budget. Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 [quote name=..&G:..]Btw, which graphics card do you guys think is the best? For you? Depends on the budget. I mean, what's the best graphics card on performance? And here is a pic with the specs: All this costing £769.00 with VAT and everything. Link to comment
ixjf Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Nope. £800 build with 2GB of RAM? 8GB is the standard now, at least 4GB is a must, especially for the games you want to play. Definitely change that i7 to an i5 and you might as well change your power supply to a higher quality one (XFX Pro 550W Core Edition is a good one) Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 I selected 2GB ram because I know someone that has 8GB rams and could lend me 2 of them, but I changed the specs and got a 16GB ram and downgraded from i7 to i5-4690. Also, I asked the people from pc specialist and they told me that I do not require a higher voltage PSU, the maximum I need is 480, so I'll stay with 550, also, they only have corsairs.. I am mostly worried about the graphics card, do you think that this 3GB AMD RADEON™ R9 280X - DVI, HDMI, mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable is any good? Link to comment
ixjf Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 [quote name=..&G:..]I selected 2GB ram because I know someone that has 8GB rams and could lend me 2 of them, but I changed the specs and got a 16GB ram You're wasting your money. For gaming, you won't need 16GB of RAM. [quote name=..&G:..]Also, I asked the people from pc specialist and they told me that I do not require a higher voltage PSU, the maximum I need is 480, so I'll stay with 550, also, they only have corsairs.. I never mentioned voltage. I'm talking about quality, not power. The power supply is low-end, not even 80 PLUS certified. It doesn't have to be another brand, just not a low-end PSU on a £800 build. [quote name=..&G:..]I am mostly worried about the graphics card, do you think that this 3GB AMD RADEON™ R9 280X - DVI, HDMI, mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable is any good? It's more than enough for current generation games in high graphics settings. Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Ok so, I down graded to 8GB ram and upgraded the power supply to an CORSAIR 650W CS SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET Thanks for advice One question tho, why is i5 better than i7? i7 it's newer than i5. Link to comment
MTA Team jhxp Posted February 21, 2015 MTA Team Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's simply because it's cheaper and for the price difference between i5 and i7 you would get more RAM so your pc would perform much better in games rather than the original PC build you've listed. That i7 is not newer than i5 as they come from the same cpu generation (4th gen Intel Core CPU - also known as Haswell), but is a bit faster and more expensive. As for the motherboard, would there be a significant price increase between the one you've chosen and these ones below? I've listed the differences between the motherboards in case you'd like to check what you'd be paying extra for. http://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z97 ... fications/ (will also support the 5th gen Intel Core CPUs; newer and better chipset, also a full atx format, so you'd get more RAM and PCI/PCIe slots and fan connectors and generally more space on the motherboard for extra cpu cooling etc., and a M.2 SSD port) http://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z97 ... fications/ (similar as above, but with a different chipset cooling) http://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z97 ... fications/ (same as ones above + better audio codec/sound card, an additional fan connector) http://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z97 ... fications/ (same as the one above + better stock chipset cooling and a vrm section cooling, also an even better audio codec/sound card and yet another fan connector, DisplayPort for built-in graphics, no PCI ports but more PCIe ports instead) An Asus Z97-K or Z97-C would be a good choice for you I guess. If you have got a 5.1 speaker system, go with the Z97-C or Z97-PRO if they're not much more expensive. Link to comment
ixjf Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I think if he's going for a Z97 chipset motherboard, he might as well get the unlocked i5-4690K and if he can't afford a CPU cooler now with all of this, he can always buy one later. It's still cheaper than a new, unlocked CPU. Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Ok so, I decided not to take windows as it costs a lot (£107) and they will install a trial anyway to do the tests, so I can install windows myself. That saved me a lot of money, money is not really a problem, but I don't want to spend more on building then on buying, because I saw nearly the same specs and 1TB memory for £500. Anyway, these are the motherboards available: Also, for the cooler I was thinking of going with Super Quiet 22dBA Triple Copper Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler, the rest are liquid/hydro coolers, and I don't want to risk spillage Link to comment
ixjf Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Why can't you buy from another store? Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Buy what from another store? Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 If I buy them from another store, I will not know if they are compatible and I will not know how to install them By the way, I decided to change the motherboard of the build to an ASUS® H81-Gamer: ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs Link to comment
ixjf Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Building the PC is very simple, and there are lots of video tutorials out there explaining how to do it step-by-step. It's pretty much just screwing and connecting cables. If you're not sure if a component is compatible, you can always ask or use PCPartPicker instead. Link to comment
..:D&G:.. Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 Too much fuss and I don't have much free time, but what's your opinion on the build now, is it any good for next gen games? I saw that it will suite GTA 5 as it has the recommended specs. Link to comment
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