Jakk Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Ok, I've tried everything I can to improve this without success, so I thought I would try asking here. When I start all races, all other players zoom way off ahead of me straight away which pushes me back to around position 16. I'm left slowly moving ahead, where as everyone else seems to be jumping ahead of me in speed. This seems to happen in every type of race, on every server. I've also noticed that if I happen to catch up to another player, they seem to move a lot faster than me. I figured it was a fault my end, something inducing lag. Following this I have: -Scanned for Spyware -Scanned for Virus -Defragmented my Drive -Changed both Firewall and Anti-Virus to a less system-consuming product -Lowered GTASA video settings -Changed my Graphics Cards settings to Performance -Sorted out all Unnecessary Processes Yet the same problem remains. My computer is surely good enough to run the game flawlessly: 3.4Ghz Pentium 4 Processor 1.5GB of RAM 2MB Broadband ATI Radeon 9800 Video Card My Ping is usually very low on most servers, around 24 most of the time. Please help, I really enjoy this game, but most of the fun is gone since I always have a 99% chance of losing every game Thanks in Advance Link to comment
Leviathan Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 hmm, you probably get framedrop... try if lowering your graphics a little. and about bike races, there's a little trick wich let's you get a fast start. so starting last on bike races only is just a matter of training... Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Yep I know the bike trick, I do it too And I've lowered my graphics down to minimum Link to comment
Leviathan Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 time for some little windows tweaking then kill as much processes as possible (ctrl+alt+delete and shut down explorer, and some other processes wich aren't of any need) with the explorer shut down. you don't have the windows interface anymore. but just use "new task" and browse to the mta executable. or try defragmentation. or updating your drivers. and if you have over 256mb of ram you could allso disable the paging executive and enable the largesystemcache. go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management in you register (start-->run-->regedit) and set both DisablePagingExecutive and LargeSystemCache to 1 you could allso disable some services (start-->run-->services.msc) like the themes service. if you disable it, you save memory and use the classic windows style. Link to comment
erorr404 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Download fraps and tell us what framerate you're getting. With a system like that you shouldn't have any fps issues. Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 time for some little windows tweaking then Winkkill as much processes as possible (ctrl+alt+delete and shut down explorer, and some other processes wich aren't of any need) with the explorer shut down. you don't have the windows interface anymore. but just use "new task" and browse to the mta executable. or try defragmentation. or updating your drivers. and if you have over 256mb of ram you could allso disable the paging executive and enable the largesystemcache. Code: go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management in you register (start-->run-->regedit) and set both DisablePagingExecutive and LargeSystemCache to 1 you could allso disable some services (start-->run-->services.msc) like the themes service. if you disable it, you save memory and use the classic windows style. Done all that, still getting same outcome. Although I think the regedit might have improved lag slightly. Download fraps and tell us what framerate you're getting. With a system like that you shouldn't have any fps issues. Alright, At start of race when everyone zooms off its around 5-8. During the rest of the race when there aren't too many players on the screen, its around 15-18. Jumped up to 20 when I went through a tunnel. Link to comment
><CHAIN>< Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Do you know what version of drivers you are using for your ATI card? And can we assume the game works fine in single player? Also, has this problem recently started to happen or has it always done it? Thanks Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 This is all the information about my ATI drivers: Driver Packaging Version 8.203-051211a-029124C-ATI CATALYST® Version 05.13 Provider ATI Technologies Inc. 2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6587 2D Driver File Path System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{0AF3B75F-24F2-415A-8546-F196ECCACBA3}\0000 Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0362 OpenGL Version 6.14.10.5525 CATALYST® Control Center Version 1.2.2172.2074 AIW/VIVO WDM Driver Version 6.14.10.6238 AIW/VIVO WDM SP Driver Version 6.14.10.6238 The game works perfect in single player mode, never any lag and it's been happening for a couple of weeks now. I've taken a quick video of what happens at the start of the races - the most effected area. It moves a bit slow, but not as slow as the video shows. Just fraps slowed it down a bit. Also the video settings are medium here, as i've said I've tried it on minimal settings and it makes no difference. Just hurts my eyes http://media.putfile.com/HmmLag Link to comment
><CHAIN>< Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 ok, go to windows update and use it to get the latest WHQL driver for your ATI card. Or use Device Manager and update the driver there. For now, dont use the ATI website, this will ensure you get the microsoft certified driver.... Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Hmm, windows update and device manager couldn't find a driver for it. Should I uninstall my current one and try again? Link to comment
><CHAIN>< Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 yeah, give it a try lets see what you get.... Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Ok, drivers updated according to windows update. Driver Provider: ATI Technologies Inc. Driver Date: 22/02/2005 Driver Version: 6.14.10.6517 Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher Link to comment
><CHAIN>< Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 ok do the symptoms still show? Link to comment
><CHAIN>< Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 ok, did anything get changed a couple of weeks ago? it's been happening for a couple of weeks now Also, is your PC overclocked? Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Nope, nothing has really changed at all. It's just been gradually getting worse. And PCs not overclocked Link to comment
><CHAIN>< Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 K, have you tried uninstalling both MTASA and GTA? Freshly installing both? Full install of GTA to hard disk Link to comment
><CHAIN>< Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 ...or maybe check the event log to see if any issues reported (particularly with a couple of weeks ago) Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Sorry, didn't see the second post. How do I check the event log? Also I've been playing a few other games and getting lag again.. Although MTASA is the most effected game, there really must be something wrong with my computer. Like error404 said, I really shouldn't be having these problems with my system, and after carrying out all the steps I have done it should be fine but isn't.. There must be something going wrong somewhere, I just can't figure it out. I don't want to have to format my computer again.. It's getting tiring having to format every few months because something goes wrong. So please, all the help I have received has been great, I appreciate it so much. If you guys could help me figure out this problem I would be SO Grateful! Sorry for the double-post. Link to comment
erorr404 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 How many people were playing when you were getting the framerate you reported on the first page? If there were 20+ people at start, then getting low fps is expected. You never see this many vehicles on screen in single player so that may be the cause. But 5-8 fps does seem a little extreme. You may have already done this, but just to be sure, - did you check if AA or AF isn't being forced on the game from your video card control panel? - what is your game resolution and did you try lowering it? - did you try playing on a server by yourself or with very few people? Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Yes, the lag only occurs when there are a few people near me/ on my screen. It all works ok when I am on my on, just jolts every now and then. However, all the ones that zoom off have the same amount of people on the screen, so any lag I am getting must be much more severe than theres. I've tried many times on lower resolution, and it makes very little difference for some reason. Sorry, I don't know what AA or AF is, or how to check it Link to comment
erorr404 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Yes, the lag only occurs when there are a few people near me/ on my screen. It all works ok when I am on my on, just jolts every now and then. However, all the ones that zoom off have the same amount of people on the screen, so any lag I am getting must be much more severe than theres. True, it does seem extreme like I said, but at least we know when it happens now. Sorry, I don't know what AA or AF is, or how to check it Anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering, smoothes out edges and makes distant textures sharper. Both can take a large toll on performance. I know my nVidia control panel (Properties > Settings > Advanced) has it, I'm pretty sure ATI does too. Look around in there and make sure it's off/disabled. Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 It's strange but since I got the windows update drivers instead of the ATI website ones, my graphics control panel seems to have completely disappeared Edit: Uninstalled the drivers and installed the orginal ones with CD, came with the ATI control center. Updated drivers. Checking the the AA and AF thing now Link to comment
Jakk Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Ok, I can't seem to disable AA and AF, all I've been able to do is set them to Minimal 2X... Heres a picture of the setup box: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Jakkk/atisetup.jpg Link to comment
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