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I have seen servers that allow\encourage players to use mods. Some players just have fun with them, and don't bother hard playing people.... Some players are just a$$holes about it and wreck everything. One thing that really has me concerned, is how the MTA team is so very strict with any mention to speedhacking or any hacking..... The MODS for BLUE will be types of hacks (some of them) will this be allowed? Personally, I'd love to see stunt servers that had the option to make everyones cars 2x faster for insaine stunts, but I don't see this happening anytime soon if ever. It is foolish to sit here and say HACKING spoils the fun for everyone NO MATTER WHAT. I personally, and many others have enjoyed riding with flying car players too, and yes it was very fun. The game did not crash for me or my friends riding, and we did this for about an hour before he got banned from the server.... We all then went back to our laggy jump fights(where dieing almost always crashes us) which is definately more fun then a flying car. The group here is ultra religeous about not hacking, so I ultimately expect this thread to be locked, I am not encouraging hacking.. Too many people use it for dark ways. I just want to let you loyalists know, there are many players that DO enjoy this stuff dispite what you think. The "It spoils everyones fun" is mearly a shared opinion here (an opinion held by those who are dedicated clan members who fight). So I offer unto you, my opinion(an opinion of a free player, who just plays for fun like many other non clan players). If ya don't wana hold my opinion with a grain of salt, and immediately dismiss it as rubbish, then so be it.

Well I have finnally played MTA SAN ANDREAS..... and..... well... I SURE AS HELL WON'T BE PLAYING MTA 3 OR VICE CITY EVER AGAIN ONCE MTA SAN ANDREAS IS OUT!!! YES! San Andreas is THAT much better! OMG! Freaking awesome game! I just love it! I am having so many withdrawels right now, not having it for pc for the next 6 months or so I NEED MY FIX!!! BAd! MTA TEAM! PLEASE! Whatever it takes, PLEASE, once GTA SAN ANDREAS is out for pc, PLEASE, build a awesome MTA for it ASAP! I am in shock and awe, of just how big the game is, and how much you can do in it! Seriously! You could have a player limit of 100 and the world would still feel empty it is so massive.. Not to mention the sheer numbers of vehicles! But I don't care, you guys HAVE to somehow make a MTA for it, with a high player limit, and as much of the content playable online as possible Shootin hoops Playing at the Casino Demo Derby Flying the tons of air vehicles Boats Semi with gas tank attachment Bars Arcade games Grocery stores Getting fat Just a small list of awesome things! W00t w00t w00t! I can't stop thinking about it! It freaking rocks! (gamebro now dies from heart failure and sweetness overdose)

I like roleplaying in MTA from time to time. Sometimes I am the hardass officer bro, out to bust anyones ass who dareth speed over 55 in a 55mph zone damnit! Sometimes I get promoted to Chief officer Bro, and I bark out orders to my officers while smacking officer joe for bringing me the wrong damn doughnuts! Sometimes I really loose it, and become a druggy dooped up dropout loser, hellbent on wild parties at exotic locations whistle snorting up some really bad chronic $#!T. Why more players don't roleplay is beyond me. We have an entire city of possibilities, yet everyone wants to jump around with stubbys all day. NOW HIRING-- Pizza delivery boy,, excellent pay, must sign release forms and provide own pizza delivery bike(found on island 1). Submit application at - Bro's Phat Ass Pizza Shack, downtown Vice City!

lol, I play as cop almost always, and litteraly this game has a 75% chance IT WILL CRASH after I die and respawn. I just hate fighting cause I know when I die, I will have to restart the game. The delay I speak of--- I hear a few players like you in game say it is not so bad, but more people agree with me, it takes several shots on a standing player to see any damage occure. I have tested this delay with my brother, and it really is bad. Yes, it is easier now with .4 then in .3,,, but it is still really poor delay.... I hear many players complain about this, so it ain't just me. Leading your target does work sure, but this is not comparable to other online shooters, and tends to be random as to how much lead you need each time (unreliable) Even with these problems, I still enjoy playing as a cop and fighting from time to time. The skin problem is a hazard!!!! I use common sense, and know who is on my team, but when we get about 10 cops, and one idiot starts shooting another cop cause he looks like something else, they all start shooting, and just like that the cops annihilate each other into oblivion! While funny, it makes playing heated sceenarios almost immpossible. Other players are oblivious to the fact that there is a skin problem. Untill blue comes out, and fighting becomes awesome,,, why not tune this game more towards the stunting side? That part does work fine. The current stunting mode sucks, and needs an update... Untill then, I'll do my stunting in the DM servers. NOTE TO MTA TEAM---- Now Hiring! 10 bloodring bangers! Please deliver to demo pit in either DM or stunt mode.... Paying 10 car wrecks an hour! Bonus pay for a new demo pit in middle of vc map!

sure, this all sounds good to me Still, once stalker shadow of cherynoble comes out, I won't be so interested in gta anymore. There are other games (besides) GTA comming out in the next year that are simply amazing, and have awesome moddability. ok ok ok.... SO blue is a year off at most... Will there be any further updates on the existing MTA untill blue is released? I'd love to see a real stunt mode, with firetrucks, ambulances, demo pits, stunt parks, loops, corkscrews, monster truck car crushing tracks, nascar stadium, san fran style hills, and everything else the current stunt mode is missing which is a LOT! anyways, big thanks to the MTA team from gamebro!

lol, what crazy timing for you to post that jon! You see! And once this is out for pc, who would go back to VC or gta3? If blue's coding can be used for san andreas then it would not be wasted time tho I suppose....

whoa, I am not dissmissing anything! There has not been ANYTHING better then MTA released yet for pc (better for city chaos online). I am saying that by the time blue is out, we probably will have games simular to this, yet are far better. I am saying---- IF san andreas came out for pc, and a mod group like this made a awesome multiplayer mod for it, would you care to play the old VC or GTA 3??? I am sure many fans would switch over to the newer game. Thus rendering all the time and effort on blue as, waste... Wasted time on something nobody will play. Not that it sucks, just that there is something far better. Catch my drift? And no, I don't play GTA3 online.. Only VC. (yes I agree, more fun the single player)

Very good points indeed. However, IMO, untill fighting can be done without such huge delay, I think the game should be built more for car\stunt things then fighting.... Fighting is further hurt by frequent crashes from spawning.. If fighting worked decently, I would fully agree with you, but it doesn't. I can sit there and shoot 3 solid shotgun shots into a char standing, before the effect is even seen. This has got to be some kind of record for the longest fire delay ever? And I have played this game on 256k cable, and 1mb\sec dsl. (no difference) If robbers spawned in the boring part of island 1, yes it would draw more players. But as far as driving goes, it is still a boring area with few jumps, or interesting things. The SS char is ok, but if you are gona play MTA for kills, you would want robber anyways, for the stubby jump fights. I still enjoy fighting is VC (I always play as the cops to bust some serious a$$) but I have far more fun screwing around with packers, and bikes ect. It really sucks that player skins DO NOT show up correctly for everyone... You can spawn as a cop, to help the cop team, and fellow cops (who are playing cops vs robs with you) will shoot you cause on thier screen your skin is not a cop. So playing as a team can be difficult. (who is what? kind of scenario) SO untill they make a WORTHY stunt mode, I say put some more bloodring bangers back in the demo pit so I can show people what MTA is really about. cause jumping laggy stubby fights is not what multiplayer theft auto was supposed to be about.....

to that one guy, no I am not pissed at stubby players, I just view it as a boring, repetitive way to play MTA Ok, so they release GTA san for pc with no multiplayer..... BUT!!! What if modders get to make MULTIPLAYER MODS for it like GTA 3 and VC has???? Even if there is no multiplayer for the pc version of san andreas, you have to take into consideration that there will be other amazing games comming out in the next year. I am just pointing out that time is precious here. I wana enjoy BLUE while it is still REVOLUTIONARY, and not REDUNANT! (meaning inferior to another awesome game)

I liked demo derby more, (having 15 players in there, with firetrucks, ambulances, choppers, packers, you name it,,,, all these players and vehicles smashing into each other, it was just freaking fun! ) You could get almost any vehicle in the stadium if you knew the tricks. But who can forget the ultimate getaway car (hotring racer)!! I too loved racing with other players from the docks to the ammunation. Having people there trying to shoot out our tires as we drove by, also added to the experience and challange Races in the hotring were ok too, but a real nascar like stadium would rock! I say we need some kind of stunt park outside, with many spawning cars, and loops, jumps, ramps, a monster truck and a car crushing pit?

I think blue will be a dream come true indeed, but we have a problem here..... It is a long ways off. Am I wrong? Status says 60 percent... Are they going to launch it sooner? Considering how long it has taken them to reach 60 percent, I think it is reasonable to say it is nearly 1 year away if they are not launching untill 100%. By then we will have STALKER, shadow of chernyoble and possibly SAN ANDREAS for pc with a MULTIPLAYER MODE. These are 2 games that will make me forget all about VC in a heartbeat once launched. I need my blue before these games,,, not after. This game market is constantly taking strives forward, and GTA VC is getting older. To take another year on BLUE is unreasonable as I don't see many gamers still hanging around by then. I am not saying the MTA team is lazy, they are legends in the mod community, and I appreciate what they have done. I am just saying we need blue, and we need it sooner then another year. (AND NOT BECAUSE I WANT IT, BUT BECAUSE THE FANBASE WILL SHRINK DRASTICALLY WITH NEWER BETTER GAMES)

You can now have pointless stubby fights in Phils yard instead. Hopefully now you do. hahahaahaa, funny to hear you say that (pointless stubby fights) I could not agree more. I personally liked the silly biker gang skins.. Especially the one with the butt crack showing I love roleplaying as a dooped up high school dropout with that char. The secret service chars are ok, but thier locations do not add much action to those more boring parts of vice city, in which they spawn. IMO- the punk gang was more usefull, having their super fast bikes and crazy parties! Taking out the blooding ring racers, and 2 bloodring bangers was the single worst thing you did to 4.1. You say you guys did this cause not many used them, WELL WHY IS THAT? Becasue you did not exploit this more! I have shown so many people the demo pit, and they are like WHOA! Where did this come from!? They have no idea you guys put in the sweet demo pit with spawning cars! It is a wonderfull break from boring stubby fights! I got a lot of people into some serious demo derbys in 3.0 and just loved it! You should have added more cars to the demo pit, or at least put cars IN THE ARENA in stunt mode. rather then put them outside. Instead you took out these vehicles, to place more in that part of town, non of us bother playing in. That part of town is really boring. I say purge it, and build san fran style hills for us to crash up and down on! (the part of town I am referring to is the downtown section between the lighthouse and police station with interior) I love the new weather changings, but I HATE the frequent, and just annoying FOG! Does anyone here like fog? anyone? If we like fog, we can just turn the view distance down in the options menu Basically that is all that is happening. Otherwise, I am more immersed into this game when I hear crashing thunder, and rain. I sorta agree with the author of this thread, what happened to the fun stuff?

Hello, perhaps a few of you have seen me in game, I don't play to often, and I rarely fight. I am here to talk about MTA VC. I love MTA, and thank the devs for this awesome achievement. Having said this, I feel there is much room for improvement. Now my ideas are not solid gold, nor do I think of myself as a genieus (spelling?) so please bare with me here. FIRE DELAY...... This is the main reason I do NOT like to fight very often in MTA. I have a fast 1mb\sec dsl, and still trying to shoot anyone is a experience I don't care to practice all day long. Why is there so much delay? I know GTA and GTA VC were not meant to be online, but the delay is terrible. It is so bad that everyone just ends up jumping around each other with stubbys, and shooting like maniacs. This does not take skill, but rather luck. Anyone can take a stubby and jump all day like a retarded monkey, then glitch the game to thier advantage. IS this how we really want to play MTA? Very VERY shallow experience if you ask me, and saddly, most players play this way. BORING!!! I love the stubby in single player, and I think it belongs here in MTA. The whole problem is the fire delay. It has to be more reasonable so that stubby won't dominate in a long distance situation. In real life, you are not going to get very close to a guy who is spraying m60 fire all over, now are you? In MTA it is always the same formula-- Spawn as robber Run up to other players Pull out stubby shoot jump shoot jump shoot ...... eventually you or the other player dies, and the cycle repeats... All day long....... wow great huh? Here we have an entire city to play with, and this is how we spend our time? I would love fighting if the fire delay was reasonable, and the game did not crash so frequently from respawning. VEHICLES AND DIFFERENT MODES----- This part of the game seems to work really well! I can't think of a more fun online driving experience period.... So why is this not exploited more? Me and many other players loved having demolition derbys in the hyman stadium (bloodring pit) in MTA 3.0...... Now in 4.1, there are only 2 car spawns in there, and the stunt mode has NO cars in there! (have to go outside everytime you need a new one) We NEVER played DD in stunt mode, because you devs, put all the dang cars spawns OUTSIDE!! Put cars in the pits! It is not a complex idea is it? Yeah, about 8 of them ok? 4 on each side perhaps? maybe even a packer or 2 around the arena for extra fun? huh? I can't tell you how many countless hours of fun I've had in that arena on a DM server in the old days of 3.0. The stunt servers are rarely populated, and are not very,,,,, stunty if you ask me... Lets have some loops, major ramps, something! The stunt mode now just seems like, half assed mode.... A giant stunt park would be great IMO. But adding a few ramps here and there, then calling it a stunt mode, seems like a lame effort. No wonder few play it. Some more inspiring race tracks would be great too. Imagine a large dirt track for motocrossing action.... Or a large outdoor nascar arena.. Sure there are ones there now, but they are kinda lame. You could even give us a silly PACE car for the nascar races. I'd gladdy drive. Or if there is a terrible accident, someone could drive a fire truck and putout a dangerous fire? ok I am dreaming now. There are just so many possibilties here, yet the focus seems to be on stubby combat.. WE have an entire city people! Lets do something with it! also, I think the whole cops vs robbers theme could be greatly enhanced by npc (bot) controlled officers that a commander can issue orders to.. We need Law and Order in this town already, seriously. Ok, so maybe bandwidth restrictions won't allow such dreams, but what about making a real cop vs robber mode, in which cops have the more powerfull gear, and robbers have more fun robbing banks and such..? Like it would be a match setup, 2 teams, robbers start in a random hideout, and cops spread throughout all stations... Robbers can't see police on radar, nor can police see robbers..... ROBBERS HAVE THIER HIDEOUT LOCATIONS ON RADAR, and flash when loot is being attempted to hide at one. Robbers rob bussineses or raid police stations, and a flashing symbol appears on cops radar. The cops then rush to the crime sceen, and attempt to bust the robbers.. Robbing a small pizza shop (easy) an in and out affair, but small reward.... Robbing bank, dangerous, risky, (have to blow safe, and break past other things so it is more time consuming) but yeilds great rewards! After commiting their crime, they then have to escape to their hideouts, where the loot will have to be safely stashed for 5 minutes to score.... COPS will NOT know where this is unless they follow, and the gangsters will have to try n loose the police while in high speed chase. If a gangster is shot and killed, he is BUSTED! He can not move untill a fellow gangster breaks him from his cuffs... Once busted he lays on ground imobile, and the police force can place him in the back of a cop car or swat truck... (swat truck harder to escape maybe?) Apon arriving at the police station (with interior) the police players then drag the sorry crims a$$ into a jail cell and locks the fking doors baby! He then sits with other busted inmates hoping his team can bust him out. Which is very risky, but can be done. If police force wins (all criminals busted and in jail) the policeman with most arrests gets a bonus weapon and sqaud car? for the next round. Vice versa-- the criminal with the most stolen loot, gets a special weapon for the next match. This would be the incentive to play hard! (a new match would start when ciminals side scores enough loot or all criminals are apprehended, and then the cycle repeats! FUN! IF a cop is killed, he is not held captive by criminals, rather respawns after about a 30 second delay or so... Cops would be genuinely tougher, and criminals would HAVE to play sneaky. Because you can't see the rival team members on radar, you have no idea if a robber is hiding behind a counter with a stubby loaded hehehe... Imagine being a robber, holding a stubby to a nervous cashier demanding money! You could A- comit a robbery B- A mugging C- A murder D- all of the above Obviously with what I listed here, there would be certain imbalances to work out, and other issues. BUT THAT IS WHAT I CALL A REAL COPs VS ROBBERs mode!! Again, I feel that MTA is a shallow experience, from what I would expect after playing the single player mode. And all the future work seems to be focused on more of the same. sorry for the long post tho, my first one.