Ransom Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I was responding to KFCPI... and stating the rule again just so people don't go thinking modding is ok. Link to comment
Splooge Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 He already stated that he doesnt play DM servers and neither do I. Also the majority of people who play stunt servers never play DM servers. Its too different kinds of gameplay. So how can it be cheating? Your not competing for anything on stunt. You can only cheat if your trying to acheive a goal or win something. Highest points, most kills, whatever. In stunt there is nothing. You just drive around and go off ramps. Also stunt is not fun unless you *cheat*. What is fun about having your car blow up after going off 3 ramps? Nothing. I didnt like anything related too online play with Grand Theft Auto 3 or VC till I met Cudda and was introduced to his map mod. If it wasnt for the fact that I can make and use map mods and othe edited files I wouldnt even play it at all because it just wasnt any fun. If i want to play a good dm game Ill play one that was created for that purpose. Unreal, Medal Of Honor, Battlefield, Call of Duty, the list goes on. I guess im just not 1337 enough to enjoy a fine experience such as this. Link to comment
Splooge Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I was responding to KFCPI... No you were making a statement to everyone. and stating the rule again just so people don't go thinking modding is ok. Is this some kind of *official* rule you people generated in your heads? Each server has their own rules... Link to comment
quakerjtf Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 People who are hard core against map mods suck. I love map mods for messing around. I know that ramps to buildings can be like cheating(flying in the air), but I like map mods for adding a jump, or little half pipe here or there so that when im cruising down the road, I dont get bored, or can have some fun. I still don't use map mods since there isnt a map mod thats pure jumps. Too bad admins are against them. Link to comment
Guest Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 they are prob against them due to the fact that people can stand behind them in a fight and youl never touch them for one example. there are many ways that map mods can be abused, and map mods definently can give someone an advantage. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 People who are hard core against map mods suck. I love map mods for messing around. I know that ramps to buildings can be like cheating(flying in the air), but I like map mods for adding a jump, or little half pipe here or there so that when im cruising down the road, I dont get bored, or can have some fun. I still don't use map mods since there isnt a map mod thats pure jumps. Too bad admins are against them. I suck Play them on singleplayer. Btw, how do you use them without a cracked client, tsk tsk. Link to comment
[KFC]Nugget Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I dont see a reason why they couldnt be used on stunt servers, if you want a few extra ramps in a stunt server why not, its not like your gonna be getting into any gunfights Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I never go on a stunt server so I don't really care except that you break the eula. But people use them on DM all the time and it blows. Link to comment
Splooge Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Ofcourse there are always people who want to ruin the game for others but almost everybody I played against in stunt servers never played in DM either, so if they installed Cudda! World and just played in DM it was for the sole purpose to cheat in DM. I never played on a DM server with Cudda! World installed so I dont know how it can be used against others. I cant think of how it could be used to cheat either. When I had it installed and I hoped in a car with somebody who didnt have it and we would go through a ramp I would get tossed out and killed. Link to comment
[KFC]Nugget Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Well like king said, if u use it in DM and ur th eonly one who has it u can hide behind the ramps and you wont get hit. Also u can use the jumps and ramps to get to places no one else can. Like on the character select hotel which by the way is fucking annoying Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Well like king said, if u use it in DM and ur th eonly one who has it u can hide behind the ramps and you wont get hit. Also u can use the jumps and ramps to get to places no one else can. Like on the character select hotel which by the way is annoying thanks Link to comment
[KFC]Nugget Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 dammit, im always typing king instead of Kung, u know what i meant though but if it makes u feel good ill let u pretend thats what i meant to type Link to comment
quakerjtf Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 dammit, im always typing king instead of Kung, u know what i meant though but if it makes u feel good ill let u pretend thats what i meant to type Heh heh heh. Yeah that's good stuff. The thing about having maps for DM is just for miniramps or so on the side of the road to make things more interesting like wall riding a building. Abusing something like this is pretty hard and would be dumb anyway. I can see why some portions of cudda. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 If you can use a ramp that I don't have that is an advantage. Imagine you are running away and use that ramp. Plus you can stand behind a ramp for cover. I don't see it so I am lighting you up. You see all the bullets hitting the ramp. advantage again. Also there is this. Answering the question about why map mods are not supported sigh...the reason we view such things as cheating is quite simple.. it affects the gameplay in an unplanned way for other gamers... Right now, there is no way to guarantee other mods are being used by the other people playing MTA. This causes huge problems in multi play. the cardinal rule of multiplayer programming is... if it affects gameplay make sure its synced. In situations of map mods, we can't guarantee everyone is using the same one, as such we consider map mods cheating. I dont hear people complaining that games like Counterstrike and BF1942 have taken measures to verify that the map data is consistent among all players. I know this brings up the issue, "why not sync the maps and have others able to download them." this goes back to the fundamental difference between MTA and other multiplayer games. CS and BF1942 were designed as multiplayer games, maps are individual files here. in VC its not a simple matter, and we can't focus our efforts into integrating a util to edit the .img .txd (whatever) files of every other player. We are much more focused on gameplay, and stability. Sorry for the inconvenience, but you have to look at it this way. We are VERY early in development. we release beta's to find bugs and ways to correct them. but the experiment goes wrong when you start throwing in other variables such as map mods (which could cause crashes). and we are left trying to find where they originated. it makes our life harder as developers, and affects teh quality of our future releases. Kent Link to comment
Guest Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 k i cant believe you guys are still on this subject but for the last time we know using cudda is cheating on DM servers. how many times do we have to say we dont go to DM servers we only play on a stunt server that allows mods and you guys said it your self that its ok to use it if the server allows it. im done with this subject because were doing nothing wrong by playing on a server that allows it. and i know your gonna say but its breaking the eula .... do you know how many people have broken that already?.....too many to count. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 k i cant believe you guys are still on this subject but for the last time we know using cudda is cheating on DM servers. how many times do we have to say we dont go to DM servers we only play on a stunt server that allows mods and you guys said it your self that its ok to use it if the server allows it. im done with this subject because were doing nothing wrong by playing on a server that allows it. and i know your gonna say but its breaking the eula .... do you know how many people have broken that already?.....too many to count. You don't speak for everyone. Some people use these to cheat Just because a law has been broken by others doesn't justify you breaking it. That is a logical error. Link to comment
Guest Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 i know i dont speak for everyone who uses cudda but believe me they would agree with me. just get over this subject because we are never gonna agree with eachother. i know people use it to cheat but im not talking about other people im talking about splooge and I using cudda. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 i know i dont speak for everyone who uses cudda but believe me they would agree with me. just get over this subject because we are never gonna agree with eachother. i know people use it to cheat but im not talking about other people im talking about splooge and I using cudda. I was talking to Pi. I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't effect me. If you stay on the stunt server I will never see you Link to comment
Guest Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 no you were talking to me as you can see you quoted me and responded to me. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I did respond to you but read up. I was replying to Pi until you jumped in in response and then i answered you. If it was only you posting about how cheating is cool. I would have ignored it. Link to comment
SM xenex Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I kill ducks where its allowed. I dont kill ducks where its not allowed. Does that make me a killer? To makaevil and all the other cheaters out there no , but to normal people yes. Someone see my point? Link to comment
Guest Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 its makaveli and no what you said makes no sense. also if you wrote my name out wrong to be funny thats pretty childish. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 its makaveli and no what you said makes no sense. also if you wrote my name out wrong to be funny thats pretty childish. I totally agree if he did that it is childish and unacceptable btw so is this Shut up poopyhead Link to comment
Guest Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 k how old are u? because that is not funny at all. i bet your were just pissing your pants laughing your ass off. kids.... Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 k how old are u? because that is not funny at all. i bet your were just pissing your pants laughing your ass off. kids.... [sarcastic tone]k how old are u? because that is not funny at all. i bet your were just pissing your pants laughing your ass off. kids....[/sarcastic tone] Link to comment
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