Map Editor issues

[SamHII]

Hey, my name is Sam. I've been playing MTA SA with a friend of mine for a while now, just got back into and I'm looking at creating my own map.

So far I've sectioned off the lower part of the dam, laid some flat road, parking lot, helipad, etc pieces down and added vehicles and weapons. When I use the "test" function it works fine but when I host my own game and use my map I have a few issues

1. The most annoying is spawning in that barnyard place (default?), how exactly do I change where I spawn?

2. When I do make my way to the dam, my work isn't there. How can I change that?

3. Also, we find the GTA SA map far too large for two people. Apart from adding fences and sectioning off parts, can I create a map from scratch?

I would do the tutorial but it keeps freezing during the objects part, a basic run through of how to save, edit options and load/play maps would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

[dzek (varez)]

1. The most annoying is spawning in that barnyard place (default?), how exactly do I change where I spawn?

go into

MTA-INSTALLATION-FOLDER/server/mods/deathmatch/resources/

find a file called play.zip, unzip it content into new folder called "play"

so you should have

MTA-INSTALLATION-FOLDER/server/mods/deathmatch/resources/play/meta.xml

edit broph.lua file

on 11 line you have something like that:

spawnPlayer ( player, -711+math.random(1,5), 957+math.random(5,9), 12.4, 90, math.random(9,288)

ingame type in chat "/gp" to get your position. now just replace -711 957 12.4 with your position

2. When I do make my way to the dam, my work isn't there. How can I change that?

You mean your map isnt loaded? Try "/votemap *" (if not working, try that in server console)

3. Also, we find the GTA SA map far too large for two people. Apart from adding fences and sectioning off parts, can I create a map from scratch?

you cannot destroy native GTA SA objects.

you probably need to create a "skyland" then.

I would do the tutorial but it keeps freezing during the objects part, a basic run through of how to save, edit options and load/play maps would be much appreciated.

pressing "f" toggles between edit mode, and menu mode, on menu mode you will have icons at top of screen where you can create new/load/save new map, and have other options too.. i think its not possible to pass the tutorial i learned editor with just clicking everywhere

Thanks!

no problem

[SamHII]

varez, thank you so much! I'll get back to you and tell you if it works. Again, thanks!

[SamHII]

2. When I do make my way to the dam, my work isn't there. How can I change that?

You mean your map isnt loaded? Try "/votemap *" (if not working, try that in server console)

I didn't add it to "resources"

Works now, yet to try the spawn spot thing.

Thanks!

[dzek (varez)]

I didn't add it to "resources"

forget about that. i am using map editor, then running dedicated and dont need to copying anything

[SamHII]

Surprise surprise, more issues

Well I spent all of this morning and this afternoon making a sky map with a large flat, fenced off piece and added buildings, pickups, vehicles, etc. It all worked on the "test" but when I hosted my own game and tried it, I spawned and fell through the map, along with many of the vehicles

I go Host Game>Add resources>SkyMapII and then play the game.

What have I done wrong?

Thanks.

[dzek (varez)]

hmm, i can uderstand if just you can fall throguht objects, (client-side loading lag, sometimes you need to wait to skyroads etc finish loading, when you spawned/teleported near) but not cars (this should be handled by the server, if they are not "your" (synced by you) cars?)

tell me the position of one of objects.

[Xierra]

Maybe you can place the spawn a bit higher?

It takes 500 miliseconds or more to just load objects, so if you place objects right above the floor, you may fall

But, if you place every of the objects, vehicles a bit higher, you won't gonna fall down off the map.

OR

Make all vehicles and peoples' spawn frozen for 500 or more miliseconds.

Then make them unfroze.

I don't really know how to make the second ones But Try it!

[dzek (varez)]

afaik freezing objects dont prevent them from falling..

[SamHII]

Thanks for the help guys.

Well I stuffed my computer again, should be about a week till I get it going again. NEVER HOLD DOWN POWER BUTTON TO TURN PC OFF. I solved my falling map problem by laying down a large map piece (an arena I think) at the Los Venturas airport and lowered it into the asphalt so only the fence was visible. Worked well

Now I'll thinking of doing something similar but putting a layer of grass over the asphalt and making a woodland/paintball type scene. Lots of rocks, trees, hideouts, etc. Only bikes I'm thinking at this stage, other small vehicle ideas?

Any tips/tricks useful for making such a map? Suitable weapons?

Thanks