Hmm...GTA3 gangs in MTA...teh question (and a random 1)

[Xanarki]

In Portland, there is teh Mafia Sentinal of doom. But why isn' the Triad Fish Van nor Diablo Stallion thar? Instead there's is a Cartel Cruiser...

In Staunton, there is teh Yakuza Stinger, yet no Yardie Lobo nor Cartel Cruiser...

In Shoreside, why couldn't we choose the actual gang member models instead of the ones we got now (Kenji, Miguel and 8-Ball, the cops are fine IMO).

Just the little things that get me wonderin'.

As for my random question, why is it that when you leave the game, and come back in, the cars don't stay where they were, instead their back to the default spawn points? Thnxies.

[Slothman]

In Portland, there is teh Mafia Sentinal of doom. But why isn' the Triad Fish Van nor Diablo Stallion thar? Instead there's is a Cartel Cruiser...

I don't think the mta devs were really thinking about placing cars to parralel the single player experience, rather they just chose which cars they felt were best

In Staunton, there is teh Yakuza Stinger, yet no Yardie Lobo nor Cartel Cruiser...

yardie car would be nice, dunno if the hydrolics would sync though, it would probably just look lie the car was twitching

In Shoreside, why couldn't we choose the actual gang member models instead of the ones we got now (Kenji, Miguel and 8-Ball, the cops are fine IMO).

It was explained way back that the characters they chose had to be among the characters that moved around in the ingame cutscenes in order for it to work.

Just the little things that get me wonderin'.

As for my random question, why is it that when you leave the game, and come back in, the cars don't stay where they were, instead their back to the default spawn points? Thnxies.

that was one of the things that was left unfinished in mta.

[Xanarki]

Hmm. It should get finished :-/

It just gets annoying much of the time.

[By-Stander]

It's not broken as such, it's just a compromise. Vehicles were (are) only synchronised when a player is inside them, that's why when a player bails out the car that rolled down the road in his point of view stopped dead in everyone elses (because he left it so sync stopped). So obviously the server doesnt record where empty vehicles are and the scm (GTA's scripting file) re-parks them when you start a fresh game. This also leads to your car being 'snatched' sometimes as you go to enter it where it was abandoned at the same time that a new player (or a player that saw it destroyed and respawned) enters it at its original spawn area.

Often one will be transported across the map when this happens.

There are several compromises in the present core (and in the new core also I'm sure) in my opinion these all add to the character of the mod and stand as a constant reminder of just how miraculous it is that the many many other things DO work.

[[FMJ]chode]

that's why when a player bails out the car that rolled down the road in his point of view stopped dead in everyone elses (because he left it so sync stopped).

Actually that is VC as you cannot bail in a moving car in GTA:3 but it is the same principal.

I really don't mind the car postition reseting as it makes sure the map doesnt just get into a mess with car's les randomly spread over the map as everone has taken them from thier original spawn.

[Vicer/Spitfire]

In GTA3:MTA, only the passenger can bail out of cars etc.

[Xanarki]

Yeah, but he spawns on the roof. :-/

Unless all the Rumpos in the Gardens were taken, you spawned as a Hood, (and this bug was finished), THEN your screwed. But otherwise, I'd like it to have all cars the same location for everyone. That's just me and my weird (yet sexy) mind.

[Thunder]

You DO see the Columbians moving in cutscenes, same with Yakuzas.

I think it should go like this:

Gang | Spawn Person | Spawn Weapon

Portland:

Mafia (Joey/Salvatore/Toni) (Shotgun)

Triads (Chunky Lee Chong) (Colt45)

Diablos (Diablo Pedestrian) (Colt45/Uzi)

Gangster (Claude/8-Ball) (AK47)

STaunton:

Yardies (Yardie Pedestrian) (Colt45)

Yakuza (Asuka/Kenji/Yakuza Pedestrian) (Uzi)

Columbians (Miguel/Catalina/Columbian Pedestrian) (Uzi/AK47)

Gangster (Claude/8-Ball) (AK47)

Shoreside:

Red Jacks (Red Jack Pedestrian) (Uzi)

Purple Nines (Purple Nines Pedestrian) (Uzi)

Columbians (Miguel/Catalina/Columbian Pedestrian) (Uzi/AK47)

Gangster (Claude/8-Ball) (AK47)

That would be perfect.

[Vicer/Spitfire]

The characters should be included, but you should still be able to choose your weapon at spawn.

[Xanarki]

I think by cutscenes, is the ones that give you the mission briefings, not the ones while your on the mission.

[Thunder]

Yes I know that's what they mean. You do see the Columbian peds in those kind of cutscenes! Like the beginning cutscene (Senor Dickhead..)

[Xanarki]

Yeah, but most of the others you posted aren't (Jacks member, Yardies member, Nines member, Diablo member).

[Thunder]

Haven't you ever heard of the "ilikedressingup" cheat? It's possible to use those characters.

[Slothman]

but that doesnt neccesarily mean they could have been synced back then.

in any event, its really a moot point now.