ok thanks i sorted the problem but now i ahve another one! my friend was at my house earlier when we were trying to set one up. we set the server up on pc 2 and then tried to get onto it on pc 1 which doesnt work! but he went home and did the same and the computer he did the server on he could get onto on the internet and i could from my house, but he couldnt get onto the server from his other pc. so i thought ill just do a server on my pc in my room instead bt as you can guess that will not start up as the grey bar along the top does not appear and this pc has no firewall! any suggestions on that?