diegofkda Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I have a good idea If in mta server.conf says players can use cleo mods, players can use it ^^ I have noticed a bug with cleo mods (that disabling cleo mod fixes a bug) here is an example: <!-- This parameter allows to the players to use Cleo mods. Specify the max number of characters / lines. Note: disabling this fixes a bug bla bla bla (idk the bug lol). 1 - Use any cleo mods 0 - disable. Default 0 --> <cleolch>1</cleoch> <!-- this says the number of characters --> <cleolines>1</cleolines> <!-- This says the number of lines --> This is all, remember this is just a suggestion
Towncivilian Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 This doesn't help us unless you specify what bug it prevents. And the bug may be caused by the CLEO mod rather than CLEO being enabled in general.
diegofkda Posted February 15, 2011 Author Posted February 15, 2011 This doesn't help us unless you specify what bug it prevents. And the bug may be caused by the CLEO mod rather than CLEO being enabled in general. a guy from MTA team said there is a bug enabling cleo mods
Towncivilian Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Oh, I misinterpreted your suggestion. You're suggesting that the server owner should control whether players can use CLEO mods or not?
12p Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I think he does so. And I think it's a good idea for to "prevent / keep" to use CLEO Mods. Maybe a server owner wants to use CLEO Mods for a "Cheating Server"?
diegofkda Posted February 15, 2011 Author Posted February 15, 2011 I think he does so. And I think it's a good idea for to "prevent / keep" to use CLEO Mods. Maybe a server owner wants to use CLEO Mods for a "Cheating Server"? Not for cheating. For the reason that owner wants.
12p Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Just and idea! Not the only reason for any owner may want to use CLEO.
DiSaMe Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 MTA could support CLEO mods, but that's not so important - server owner who REALLY wants such things in the server could simply script them.
12p Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Yes, but it's really hard to script CLEO Mods as you can imagine.
Towncivilian Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 Yes, but it's really hard to script CLEO Mods as you can imagine. Obviously one must have experience with SCM and some memory hacking (which would be the only possible use for CLEO in MTASA), but it's not terribly difficult. As to what you'd script, I have no clue - uses are probably so limited for non-cheating use that it may be better to disable CLEO or maybe even all dll-equivalent files.
diegofkda Posted February 16, 2011 Author Posted February 16, 2011 Yes, but it's really hard to script CLEO Mods as you can imagine. Before know MTA, i was making a new GTA (with all) and i was editing missions, and is not too difficulty. (i stoped because my machine is really slower) MTA could support CLEO mods, but that's not so important - server owner who REALLY wants such things in the server could simply script them. Ye? Cleo mods is not the same thing than LUA, if you see you can make scripts in Cleo that you cant with Lua, or Lua scripts that you cant make with Cleo... Anyway, its just a suggestion, i wanted to make a Cleo server, if you want cleo in your server ok, if you dont want, leave it in default "0".
diegofkda Posted February 16, 2011 Author Posted February 16, 2011 (edited) Maybe, if you want to put your cleo mods in your server, put this: <cleo src="cleo.cs" /> Suggestion* Edited February 16, 2011 by Guest
Towncivilian Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 Topic "Cleo src" merged with this one - no need for duplicate topics on the same idea.
diegofkda Posted February 16, 2011 Author Posted February 16, 2011 Topic "Cleo src" merged with this one - no need for duplicate topics on the same idea. Oko I want to know if mta team will take my idea
Towncivilian Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 What exactly would be the purpose of CLEO mods in MTA:SA? Much of what's possible using CLEO is also possible using LUA scripting as far as I know. The only advantage CLEO has over LUA is memory address modification and calling functions & methods directly, but like I said: what's the point? CLEO also requires an .asi file to be loaded for scripts to function, and in the current version of MTA:SA no .asi files load.
eAi Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 We could theoretically support a subset of cleo mods, but it'd be a lot of work for nothing.
diegofkda Posted February 17, 2011 Author Posted February 17, 2011 What exactly would be the purpose of CLEO mods in MTA:SA? Much of what's possible using CLEO is also possible using LUA scripting as far as I know. The only advantage CLEO has over LUA is memory address modification and calling functions & methods directly, but like I said: what's the point?CLEO also requires an .asi file to be loaded for scripts to function, and in the current version of MTA:SA no .asi files load. So... If Cleo is enabled in mtaserver.conf, server will load cleo.asi file, the cleo.asi file is in MTA San Andreas\server\mods\deathmatch, if is not enabled in conf, it wont load ASI file.
eAi Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Cleo is for client-side scripting, there's nothing a server could do with it. If we allowed servers to put cleo dlls into clients we'd end up with people putting viruses on to our user's computers. We'll never support running arbitrary binary code on clients.
diegofkda Posted February 17, 2011 Author Posted February 17, 2011 Cleo is for client-side scripting, there's nothing a server could do with it.If we allowed servers to put cleo dlls into clients we'd end up with people putting viruses on to our user's computers. We'll never support running arbitrary binary code on clients. So, if is ASI file modified, it will say "MTA data files are modified" when you're trying to connect.
Towncivilian Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 My question remains: what would be the potential use for CLEO mods which are completely client side? LUA encompasses most if not all useful additional functions offered by CLEO. And no matter the reasoning, no such mod/hook/what-have-you that executes arbitrary code will be supported by MTASA, as eAi has said several times.
diegofkda Posted February 17, 2011 Author Posted February 17, 2011 About the bug with setVehicleHeadLightColor, it spammed in my Freeroam server, but it doesnt spams my Race server... hmmm That's not a bug in the function, but a bug in the resource that uses it (aka sloppy coding).
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