DooN

Originally posted in the General Thread but.. why not here. laugh. First off, if DM was ready, no map making unit would be needed (which has said to be main reason of delay). For a few reasons including, why would you want to DM on other structured areas other than the SA grounds ..! Secondly, why would you want to DM on other grounds other than the SA ground ..! Now if placing cars, since there is a limit, is a problem.. simply have say four different "voted" areas which is where cars and players start, where you can vote for the three of the main areas in SA or the forth being spread out over all. Now all the map modifying is not needed .. at all.. thus far in that equation which I would think most would agree = ready for launch for captain. Oh did you want me to call you by your first name, bull$hit, if the release isn't ready and you have underlined the fact that you "bitten off more than you can chew", then just say so, but blaming it on a "map editor " is not the way to go. And if is the real real reason, try giving and honest answer to to why that is so. Not shady remarks as to "everyone will need this" .. yeah why ? Btw did you relize GTA4 is coming out in about 10 months. That also most likely or most definitely supports multi-player. So your lack of doing anything, or nothing.. or if you have been working on it but not releasing it is slowly going to bring everything to a hault. So without a "map editor released" or with .. time is taking away. Formost I'd like to sum this up as to say, you are the ones making this, why should anyone be bitching at you for it. If it wasn't for you there would be nothing to "bitch" about.. right? Well, people also get cought up in the idea of what can be, and you are promising such a thing, but delaying with excuses, none backed up by any sort of legitment answer. So if there is nothing there is nothing, but if you say there is something, people hold it up there that there is something .. then slowly it drops to nothing, then what were they holding it up for. -Doon P.S. laugh.

I've decided to post one more, feel free to look at the full sentences that were quotes by me, and even those that weren't and read wrong. If that is part of your QA and team, there is little to no wonder .. laugh .. why things.. do I even need to finish the sentence, no. laugh.

Toady don't .. respond to anything I ever post, you have as much brains the dumb bitch that would kiss a toad. You double answered everything what I posted on some occasions. Your rebutles have no back up or evidence on what you try to say, just basically rerouting the persaid problems. You are part of the MTA QA team and think by posting you have some sort of "clout" to say BS and will be accepted, save it. BTW I was typing this on a previous post untill some.. yeah. BTW - "MTA Stop Playing With Yourself" Good god .. a sexual innuendo? laugh. Come on. You couldn't think of anything else ?? MTA Hop in (like two people being able to ride together in the same car).. ok that could still be considered dirty but legal depending on where you live. laugh anyways .. how about MTA Who has your back (anything relating to two people or more than two being able to play the game .. but stop playing with yourself??? If there is a wall around you, back up, and run into it at full speed. MTA You, me and my little friend named debree' (as in the $hit that flys ever where when you shoot alot) Well those are more aimed at a quick comical angle but .. stop playing with yourself .. jeus. MTA The multi way (make it ryme) MTA Make my day (ok ok clint relax) MTA I need your clothes, your boots, and your motercycle (T2 ok jokes) but seriously perhaps how about MTA Are you, and you, ready ? MTA 9 bullets, 2 clips and 32 oppenents. (technically 31 but lets not ruin it) MTA Run, fly, dive... they meet up with you as you drive. ( ok too long and corny but just saying .. but ideas are endless bah) MTA Everyones playing today. (ok some of these have rymes but that the angle we got on a bit ago) Lets try one that doesn't ryme MTA Hop In.. (said before but) I like that one and the last stated one to a degree because hop in realy represents other getting in your car and working together which is one of the coolest things in mta to an extant, just the fact that you can cruise around togher. Now MTA everyone playing today also shows that too, like that one as well, perhaps you don't care what I think or like, fine no one is asking you to read this. Something perhaps added to MTA Hop In. Once again. Oh and last and formost of the Liltoadster, yes "most likely" .. GTA4 has multiplayer. Shall I say dumbass? OR want to be smart to poster but have no idea.. or dumbass ? -Doon P.S. laugh. That's that take it or leave or don't read it.

Since the forum seems to be as buggy as the "current beta" .. I'll post here. First off, if DM was ready, no map making unit would be needed (which has said to be main reason of delay). For a few reasons including, why would you want to DM on other structured areas other than the SA grounds ..! Secondly, why would you want to DM on other grounds other than the SA ground ..! Now if placing cars, since there is a limit, is a problem.. simply have say four different "voted" areas which is where cars and players start, where you can vote for the three of the main areas in SA or the forth being spread out over all. Now all the map modifying is not needed .. at all.. thus far in that equation which I would think most would agree = ready for launch for captain. Oh did you want me to call you by your first name, bull$hit, if the release isn't ready and you have underlined the fact that you "bitten off more than you can chew", then just say so, but blaming it on a "map editor " is not the way to go. And if is the real real reason, try giving and honest answer to to why that is so. Not shady remarks as to "everyone will need this" .. yeah why ? Btw did you relize GTA4 is coming out in about 10 months. That also most likely or most definitely supports multi-player. So your lack of doing anything, or nothing.. or if you have been working on it but not releasing it is slowly going to bring everything to a hault. So without a "map editor released" or with .. time is taking away. Formost I'd like to sum this up as to say, you are the ones making this, why should anyone be bitching at you for it. If it wasn't for you there would be nothing to "bitch" about.. right? Well, people also get cought up in the idea of what can be, and you are promising such a thing, but delaying with excuses, none backed up by any sort of legitment answer. So if there is nothing there is nothing, but if you say there is something, people hold it up there that there is something .. then slowly it drops to nothing, then what were they holding it up for. -Doon P.S. laugh.

*Stretches* -DooN

Anyways enough about the "idea" for now, perhaps put more into effect later. The DVD-PC version of San Andreas is a booklet, like a driving manual type booklet or a small tourist type booklet. Says "City Guides" on it as has the San Andreas cities listed on the cover. Inside has a map, info about the game/cities etc., and the DVD in the back of the book in a comfy spot. Pretty cool. Skylines look great, sounds quality is crisp, and graphic/controls are superior to the consol versions. Have fun. -DooN

Read and feel free to give feedback. Or not. But don't complain about the size of it, I know yas have had that problem with girls (laugh)... but if you don't want to read it, dont and that's that. What is talked about requires what some would think a "lengthy" explanation. Anyone feel free to give feedback on the idea, or if the idea is even being understood and clearly put across. More and more I think about it, it sounds like a good idea. I may reiterate it in a perhaps more "understanding", updated, and clearly layed out way. Showing why it could indeed be a good if not great idea. Basically since it's impossible to have the whole city setup at once, or so it would seem, then this is a good way to have things setup fun, give a variety of things to do, plus be able to play in city to city without joining a different server, but just reloading the map to where everyone wants to go next. -DooN P.S. laugh.

Example: If there was a vote taken to decide what was to be played. 1. regular 2. boats 3. air vs ground If 1 was voted (regular) all the starting points stay regular, cars, weapons etc. If SA is split into areas like GTA3.. there could also be a sub-menu pop up that asks what area to play in, such as 1.los santos 2.san fierro 3. las venturas then the map reloads in that area. If 3 was voted (air vs ground) map reloads, half the players starting on the ground with "big guns" around, and half the players start somewhere with planes around. If 2 was voted (boats), there could be a sub-menu that pops up after 2 has voted. Giving you more options for boats, such as attack boats (boats with guns) Players start with a boat with guns. There could be another quick vote weather it should be free for all or teams. Etc. Or admin could just control it, but that could result in admin abuse or basically what ever the admin feels like playing is played, which is why the vote could work well. All this basically does is decide where the cars, players, weapons are placed which already have to be added in anyways. So by places those things in certain areas it creates a new scenario each time. Now if this can even work or just how in depth can it go is another story. As far as are you able to make it so teams can't hurt each other, would it be hard to do a vote where the map reloads? All things seems plausable and would open a variety of ways to play the game in a certain scenario style. Once again a vague idea atm, just a quick thought, but could work out well. -DooN

San Andres for PC... DVD only? Yes indeed so far, it seems, make sure you have a DVD player because the PC Version of San Andreas is only available in DVD. -DooN

*Thump Thump* A day has arrived .... *Thump Thump* A day some have awaited .... *Thump Thump* Get your practice in .... *Thump Thump* Your going to need it .... *Que Fast Paced Music* GTA:SA is now available on PC! San Andreas come out for Playstation some 8 months ago. While playing though, you just feel as your missing something. Some of the things PC offers include: Better graphics, superior controls... did I mension better graphics? Laugh. If/When San Andreas hits Multiplayer which does seem like a certainty, but when is another story... Don't forget the size of the city (basically the large area to have fun on), if your a bike cruiser don't forget there are 5 or so different speed bikes along. Airplanes??... Dogfights multiplayer. How about a gang war where your team drops in from the sky with parachuts. What your tired of killing, no more racing, and that last jump got ya a bit shaky so parachuting is out? Well how much cash you got, maybe take a bit of leisure time and go hit the roulette table.... What you want to race down the strip infront of the casinos at night time first, not too tired of racing it seems. Laugh. Or try competing on bicycles in the half pipe. All things possible with SA. And it's going to get interesting. Oh btw... care to go for a swim? That is just the things perhaps possible within the game.. also there is plenty of water around... mapping a small island for duels that people can swim too/para? Not a bad idea. Maybe a mile strip for bike races. Question with that type stuff is, is it going to be possible to use user made maps in multi SA. If some servers host the user made maps perhaps, unfortunately but not that unfortunate the regular map will be used on most servers. But if any good user maps are made specifically for certain things perhaps that will work, time will tell. The regular map thought does seem as if it's going to work fine. But small islands on the outside for multi things such as dueling/racing etc. may be tempting. If there was an admin mod that could control what vehicles are currently in play, how many of them are spawned, where players spawned, and maybe friendly fire (so you can't hurt team mates) that right there would be a could way to make scenario style games. Such as admin setting up 2 areas for spawns (2 teams) and so many planes there for the players. Then let the dogfights begin. Or if it's not that easy someone like that could be done with just a user mod so to speak but if admin had controls you could have a variety of thigns to setup combo's or whatever everyone is feeling like. If you were to do the dogfight style with planes, if your plan goes down you could parachut out and there could be rocket/powerful guns every block or so to shoot down planes. Basically it would be nice to have a admin mod to be able to controlsplayer starting points (for teams) , what vehicles and weapons are currently in the map and how many. That right there has many combo's open to how the game would be played. Of course the ol' regular will be good, good is an understatement, but for indepth play a admin mod with those basic controls could set up some good fun. For boat attacks, for bike attacks, for all plan style, etc etc. But also could create problems with admin abuse which is why you could have a vote or something pop up real quick with options saying 1-5... 1: regular 2: dogfights 3:Boat attack .. etc etc. What ever has most votes is played for a 20min period or something till another vote. It's a vague and shallow setup at the molment, but with some more thought and corrently done could work well. Just ideas. We'll have to see how things work out. Let's pretend your in SA right now. A vote pops up as what you want to play. VOTE: 1. Regular 2. Dogfight (planes) 3. Boats 4. Bike 5. Scenario Let's say 5. Scenario was picked you could have another vote pop up VOTE SCENARIO: 1. Capture the man 2. Stop the drugs from entering Los Santos 3. Air Vs Ground If 4. Boats was voted then you could have a sub-vote pop up for VOTE BOATS: 1. Boat attack (everyone spawns with a boat with guns on it) 2. Boat Race (everyone spawns with speed boats) 3. etc etc. As one of those is votes let's say it's 1. Capture the man (Also capture the flag would be a fun one but some such as a weapon or a bike would have to be used as the flag if no 3rd party graphics were to be used) ... one person is randomly chosen (basically like manhunt) and the rest try and get him. But done correcty so his bleep on the map is a certain color to find etc. If it's Air Vs Ground map starts with half and half teams some in airplanes some on the ground with rocket launchers, big guns etc. Just a prototype of an idea, quick thoughts but could lead somewhere good. Basically just an external program for admins or just ingame of how the game is setup. Not the buildings, but just the movable things such as players, vehicles and weapons being setup in a certain fashion. Which should be possible. Basically a quick run down of the above topic idea would be: Since the player starting points, car starting points and the amount of cars/vehicle starting points, as well as weapon starting points and the amount of those... are determined by MTA in the multiplayer version of SA, then, have a admin mod or a program capable of placing the appropriate things in the appropriate place for the appropriate occasion. Such as if the voting idea was taken into effect. Where people for every so often to decide what goes on "Dogfight" in teams could be the vote. Thus players start in a certain location with planes in a certain location by them or them already in, and weapon placed at specific points. This should not be hard to do, just perhaps some preprogramming of where things are started for what is voted. Since it is determined where vehicles, players, and weapons start anyways in the multi version. There just need to be a specific set of locations for each mode voted or otherwise. Which once again should be simplistic. Soo nce again to reiterate what is it this idea is for SA... basically being able to manipulate the starting locations for the creator placed things such as vehicles, player starting locations, etc. in an orderly fashion, which would open a variety of gameplay possibilities. -DooN

You can count? Guess it would have been better if I meshed it all up into one? Dur. Doesn't matter, you stop by just to complain about something that what some would consider to be useful informormation unlike your post. -DooN P.S. laugh.

On an update of Upcoming GTA games. The next version of GTA is highly speculated to be a launch title for the upcoming PlayStation 3. And it looks like they mean business. -DooN

Hmm, SA may come out with a blue coding after all. Is there any approximation at all that can be given as to how much longer after the release of SA to PC will MTA:SA be released... a day, a week, a month, a year? Couple weeks to a couple months would be my assumption perhaps. But as most probably think, the sooner the better. -DooN

Ok well as everyone may or may not know, San Andreas is being officially released June 6th for PC. A New version of GTA is coming for PSP. The game goes back to Liberty City but has updated graphics and a new story or something like that. Rockstar has a section for it on their site but just an image. It's called GTA:LibertyCityStories. *Edit* Now I'm seeing it (GTA:LibertyCityStories) dated as coming out September 1st. Just recently it was slated as July but what else is new. Some sources still have it dated at July 22, but I'm guessing you can count on a September release if that. Do the lack of advertisement and hardly no information about it, etc. -DooN

Wo, haven't checked this thread in a while... I checked it and it was locked, I really was like "are you serious, again" type thing, laugh. Left and that was that. The conversation above would have been a bit helpful to have seen earlier. "Laugh". Except for a posts from names which we won't mension but should be obvious, they could actually make people stupider with each sentence. Watch it. Interesting some moderators just thought "this is a place for all the flames to be kept" ... laugh. Anyways let's make sure that done with, no more whining. It's kinda is nice to come into your thread and not have it completely filled with crappy arguing flames in which the next post you usually has to start off with a negetive rebuttaling attitude as it can be hard to make progress with that. Chao, we'll talk about it later perhaps. Will probably be keeping thread up to date more. Will also be posting just an small topic about new GTA games for those that aren't aware of them and their release dates. -DooN P.S. laugh.